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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujin View Post
    Fair enough, but more people in the pool = reduced queue times regardless of the role ratio, because more people = more players leveling alts. It's the same reason level 50 pops faster than low level dungeons, at 50 the ratio is still most likely 3:1:1 but because there's more people it doesn't take as long...
    That makes zero sense, more people in an even distribution is more DPS as well to extend the length of the line proportionate to the increased rate of jobs in demand. Level 50 is different because the ratio is different, people have multiple jobs at 50 and just switch if the wait gets too long.
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    juniglee's Avatar
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujin View Post
    Fair enough, but more people in the pool = reduced queue times regardless of the role ratio, because more people = more players leveling alts. It's the same reason level 50 pops faster than low level dungeons, at 50 the ratio is still most likely 3:1:1 but because there's more people it doesn't take as long...
    Except it won't really change anything. The aspiring player wanting to get all their battle classes to 50 has to level 2 tanks, 1 healer, and 5 DPS classes (although 1 of them can be leveled as a healer past level 30).

    It's worse for people like me who have already leveled both tanks and healers, and only have my DPS classes left.
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    Murah Jhida
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 50
    The real question is: Why the hell is low-level roulette a 60-minute wait when WoD and expert take 5-10 minutes tops as a DPS?

    There's an obvious incentive distribution problem going on when players just don't want to do LL roulette.
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    Aisu Strong
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    The real question is: Why the hell is low-level roulette a 60-minute wait when WoD and expert take 5-10 minutes tops as a DPS?

    There's an obvious incentive distribution problem going on when players just don't want to do LL roulette.
    I saw someone suggest ll give allied seals
    I usually run it as war with in progress checked, but honestl out of pity for the low level players esp dps
    the tome reward is pathetic


    I'd make sure to never miss a day though if it gave say 100 allied
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    Storm Rider
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    The real question is: Why the hell is low-level roulette a 60-minute wait when WoD and expert take 5-10 minutes tops as a DPS?

    There's an obvious incentive distribution problem going on when players just don't want to do LL roulette.
    It is weird the sanctity of the hunt. We could also just have a weekly quest with 7 low level roulette's give a reward that gives what ever the upgrade item currently is. I used to instant que once a day on tank for LL. It is not worth it and some people think you are there slave. Some places you just want to get in and out ie. Aurum Vale.
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    The real question is: Why the hell is low-level roulette a 60-minute wait when WoD and expert take 5-10 minutes tops as a DPS? There's an obvious incentive distribution problem going on when players just don't want to do LL roulette.
    This is the most pressing question that they FAIL to answer many times over... The reward for low level roulette is simply horrendous for any well geared level 50 to even bother doing it. SE should have revise the reward to 150 Soldiery and 40 Poetic. And on top of that they should add "adventure in needs" reward to additional 50 soldiery and 20 poetic plus 15k gil, 50 allied seal. To sweeten the bonus, any tanks of healer can repeat the adventure in needs bonus as many as they can. This is pretty much the same bonus as doing mid level endgame dungeons.

    The benefits for this are two folds, it helps lower level players to get steady supply of healer and tanks. It also helps FRESHIE healers and tanks to gather as many currency as they need to buy gears without having to deal to run endgame dungeons with their lower level gears. Often this is the problem that fresh level 50 will have to face, adding currency to lower level dungeons as bonus for adventure in needs would help them gears faster.

    Another good idea would be to implement standard 40 soldiery and 10 poetics on all lower level dungeons if you are level 50. Add extra rare mounts, crafting materials and minion from dungeons level 35, 38, 41, 44, and 47 - and suddenly you have big incentives for people to do this.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 02-13-2015 at 06:37 PM.

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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    There are plans to just let you bring an NPC party from your grand company so you don't need to rely on other players for old content. I would say that is preferable over forcing high level players into content they don't want to play for rewards such as relic weapon enhancement. And the overseas data center merging would likely not be technically viable as people have said.
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    Rekuja Azalon
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    Ravana
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    Bard Lv 100
    I think the 3 AI NPC's would be perfect, Guild Wars did this and it worked perfectly fine.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujin View Post
    I think the 3 AI NPC's would be perfect, Guild Wars did this and it worked perfectly fine.
    FFXI did it too , TRUST system

    the only way to fix it , is giving ppl a way to play X job and get the exp bonus from LLR on another job , but SE wont allow that .

    Wait for 3.0 (DRK , AST ) and level your dps jobs
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 02-13-2015 at 07:19 PM.

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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    The queues suck but most DPS have resigned themselves to the fact that their queue will be longer. If you multitask you can still use the time waiting in queues productively. Farm Fates while you wait and get additional XP, money, and seals. You can also do levequests, and if your queue happens to pop while you're doing it, you can abandon a levequest and do it later. Or take up crafting or gathering. Mine shards while you're in queue and sell them on the MB for a bit of money. If you're not doing roulette and you're just running dungeons for XP, see if you have a tank or healer in your Free Company or one of your linkshells to help.
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