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  1. #31
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    Thanks to both of you! =) Very helpful~! I'll stick with ACC rings - at least until 1.19 hits with the stat changes, and then I might ask again after people do some testing, lol. Personally, I'll be really happy when 1.19 hits and stat allotment is done automatically as I have put 0 points into STR/DEX because I have been focusing on mage classes thus far. And then in 1.20, you can do it by class which will be nice, too.

    And dang, leveling to 50 using lvl1 arrows, haha. I don't think I'll do that, but I might not upgrade every time a new arrow upgrade comes along.

    Again, thanks!

    EDIT: VydarrTyr, earlier in the thread (page 1) you were talking about how DoTs were great for NMs. Do you know how the damage is for the elemental ones like Choke II, Frost II, Burn II, etc? Are they a lot weaker than Poison II or Bio II? Or about the same? Just curious as a friend wanted to try to duo a faction NM at some point, but my THM is only 30, so I don't have access to the tier 2 THM DoTs, but I DO have the elemental tier 2 ones.

    I will eventually level THM up to 50 for all those spells, but ya know.

    Thanks!
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    Last edited by naaros; 09-14-2011 at 12:08 AM.

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    I honestly can't say exactly how much damage the elemental DoTs do. But I imagine it's comparable to Bio/Dia (Poison does more damage than Bio/Dia, but for a shorter duration). The fastest I've heard of anyone killing Old Six Arms -- a mid-level NM with a ton of defense and HP -- is 2 minutes, and that was done by a Conj using only elemental DoTs.

    So I'd definitely suggest using them on NMs.
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    Oh very cool. I wish the your log said the damage of your dots. Or maybe there's an option for that, I haven't looked yet. XD

    Thanks again!
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    oooo! That's great info! I thought I couldn't use DoTs effectively because I'm spec'd for INT, but if the difference is that small I believe I'll give it a try.
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    Interesting. So if I'm reading that correctly, the elemental DoTs are about even with Bio and Dia, but Poison is still better than everything (as VydarrTyr said).

    Bah, Poison II is so far away! My THM is only lvl30, lol.
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    That chart is a little confusing. Does this mean that having 151 PIE is the same effect as having 160 PIE? Because it lists the DoT dmg as being the same for a span of 10 PIE pts. If this is true, I can make some slight mods to my stats to increase effectiveness even further. Not that it will matter much since it's all auto as of 1.19 in a couple weeks haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Awesome! Thanks Coglin. Dropped this on our LS's website for others to view as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archadius View Post
    That chart is a little confusing. Does this mean that having 151 PIE is the same effect as having 160 PIE? Because it lists the DoT dmg as being the same for a span of 10 PIE pts. If this is true, I can make some slight mods to my stats to increase effectiveness even further. Not that it will matter much since it's all auto as of 1.19 in a couple weeks haha.
    Yes, its a 10% midifier, just like all the heals. Meaning for every 10 points you add to piety, 1 point of damage every 3 seconds is gained on dots. As well, 1 point in healing with mnd ( I have noticed most modifyiers in this game are 10% ). Basically if it takes 10 points of piety to add 1 point of damage then it takes 10...not 9.

    Quote Originally Posted by naaros View Post
    Interesting. So if I'm reading that correctly, the elemental DoTs are about even with Bio and Dia, but Poison is still better than everything (as VydarrTyr said).

    Bah, Poison II is so far away! My THM is only lvl30, lol.
    Except Bio debuffs a mobs damage output and Dia debuffs a mobs defence. Raising there value exponentially in my book, depending on the mob.
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    Last edited by Coglin; 09-15-2011 at 12:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Yes, its a 10% midifier, just like all the heals. Meaning for every 10 points you add to piety, 1 point of damage every 3 seconds is gained on dots. As well, 1 point in healing with mnd ( I have noticed most modifyiers in this game are 10% ). Basically if it takes 10 points of piety to add 1 point of damage then it takes 10...not 9.
    Nevermind. That doesn't answer my question, I guess I didn't phrase it properly. I checked the details on the list before the chart and found what I was looking for.
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