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    Nyalia's Avatar
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black91CRX View Post
    Have you seen RMT prices? It's like $750 for 200 million gil...Who does this?!?!?!?! lol
    Prices are server-dependent. I've seen prices that were $5 for 10m before, which is 7.5x what you said. And yeah, people do it, or else we wouldn't be having this conversation :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Prices are server-dependent. I've seen prices that were $5 for 10m before, which is 7.5x what you said. And yeah, people do it, or else we wouldn't be having this conversation :P
    Oh, I didn't look that far into it. $5 for 10 mil? No wonder people do it.
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    Chen Kotomi
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    I'd imagine the temporary bans were given to accounts that may have been compromised by RMTers using rootkits and/or keyloggers.
    In other words, people foolish enough to not run anti-virus/anti-malware programs regularly, but not legitimately part of the RMT "system."
    This would include accounts that are registered to legitimate addresses using legitimate payment methods that suddenly started accessing from China or Romania or wherever out of the blue.
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    *sigh*

    People seem to be under the impression that everyone who buys gil gets caught and suspended/banned. Protip: They don't.

    There are dozens of ways to disguise the fact that you've bought gil and friends have told me of FC members having the gil deposited into their FC chest and then removing it from there a bit at a time because it gives plausable deniability "I don't know how the gil got there, but we shouldn't complain".

    People seem to think that gil sellers will magically disappear and everything will be flowers and rainbows if they just ban those darn gilbuyers, but the only time you'll ever see a reduction in RMT is when a game reaches the end of its life. Heck, IGE didn't pull out of providing FFXI gil until over 10 years after its initial release.

    tl;dr Banning gil buyers will have no effect on anything except SEs bottom line and most people don't willingly shoot themselves in the foot.

    Also inb4 someone accuses me of buying gil in a game when you get it handed to you just for existing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishini_Dracoto View Post
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    You are assuming there is a magic number of bans where people suddenly get it and stop buying gil. People will always buy it so long as people offer to sell it, regardless of price.

    SE has limited resources when it comes to fighting RMT, they are smart to use the majority of that chasing the source of the gil and eliminating it in chunks rather then attempt to destroy it from bottom up from buyers. Doing it the other way would just result in the farmers dispersing the gil out to more dummy accounts where it becomes hard to tell what is legitimate and what isn't.

    Yes, buyers should get in trouble. I also pretty much guarantee the people that got temp banned also didn't buy gil again since it turns into a permanent one after one strike.
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    It's time to turn to our governments.

    They should enact laws putting buying Gold/Gil under criminal prosecution.

    Gil buyers are the lowest form of human existence.
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    Last edited by Phe; 02-14-2015 at 06:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    It's time to turn to our governments.

    They should enact laws putting buying Gold/Gil under criminal prosecution.

    Gil buyers are the lowest form of human existence.
    I don't even know where to start with that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadray View Post
    I don't even know where to start with that one.
    Start with not taking it too serious.

    Take it as an exaggerated version of:
    I hate that gilbuyers ruin other people's favorite leisure time experience by supporting RMT.
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    Last edited by Phe; 02-14-2015 at 07:15 PM.

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    "Whatever can happen, will happen." - Murphy

    *Drops the mic* I'm OUT!
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    Still the Anita crew remains untouched at Gelorra Ruins...

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