The problem with Summoners

[ShaolinMike]

Unfortunately they fall short in both.

Agreed. But I'd rather look at a very useful ugly egi than something that is little more than a glorified minion.

Edit: That is not to say that pets are by any means useless, just that the SMN job would be largely unchanged if they were taken away, as summons are not at all the focus of the job.

[Bigcat9715]

Agreed. But I'd rather look at a very useful ugly egi than something that is little more than a glorified minion.

Edit: That is not to say that pets are by any means useless, just that the SMN job would be largely unchanged if they were taken away, as summons are not at all the focus of the job.

If the class was alot more badass I wouldn't care how bad the pets look. The pets could look like stick figures, and I would still main it, but sadly the class is lacking and because of that things like the pets appearance starts to stick out and bother me.

[Akiza]

The problem with the Summoner is there is'nt any emphasis on summoning and pets so the gameplay falls flat and it ends up being an Arcanist with Fester.

[ShaolinMike]

The problem with the Summoner is there is'nt any emphasis on summoning and pets so the gameplay falls flat and it ends up being an Arcanist with Fester.

Yep, and sadly it doesn't look like that's going to change much. That being said, it's still my favorite DPS to play, even with all it's unfortunate shortcomings. I TRIED switching, but always end up coming back. :-/

[Sequora]

I just don't understand how they keep saying things like "We're listening to your ideas!! We really are!" and then flat out say no. We don't know what's in store for us for the expansion and we won't know for a bit. In the footage we saw, the old models were being used. That being said, I didn't notice any other classes using new abilities. It's possible they just didn't want to spoil some kind of reveal. Only time will tell.

[Dyvid]

I just don't understand how they keep saying things like "We're listening to your ideas!! We really are!" and then flat out say no. We don't know what's in store for us for the expansion and we won't know for a bit. In the footage we saw, the old models were being used. That being said, I didn't notice any other classes using new abilities. It's possible they just didn't want to spoil some kind of reveal. Only time will tell.

Depends on changes. We haven't seen Ramuh or Shiva Egis or how they will be implemented into the game. It's possible they took a certain someones idea to change the appearance when Rouse is used to be a balance of the community and developers. It sucks they didn't even touch battle content at PAX or that we are still left in limbo on what Heavensward means to current jobs and classes. Building hype is fine and all but 3 months away is enough time to give us a taste of what is to come.

Edit: I did think about the appearance though. If they made Ifrit look just like the primal but the size of a lalafel it would be laughable. If they made Ifrit "primal" the size of a FFXI summon, it could get in the way of players view of AoE, more so if you have 2 or more SMN in the party.

Snap a pic of Grey Arbiter for a better idea of what Ramuh Egi could look like:

[Selli]

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They've been coming up with HW for a while, I assume some new summons for both SCH and SMN will be coming along with the new 60 cap.

I've watched the PAX game footage at least 6 times, frame by frame. I definitely did not notice any new skills at all for any of the classes or any new summons. I believe they really wanted to focus on the new classes and areas to entice new players. They also didn't give a whole lot of information on the new classes either (literally the biggest spoiler they gave for anything class related was that DK uses MP).

They have 3 months until HW launches, I'm sure they have at least a couple more teasers up their sleeve. I'm sure our reactions feed their sadism.

[Sequora]

We haven't seen Ramuh or Shiva Egis or how they will be implemented into the game.
If they made Ifrit look just like the primal but the size of a lalafel it would be laughable. If they made Ifrit "primal" the size of a FFXI summon, it could get in the way of players view of AoE, more so if you have 2 or more SMN in the party.

Snap a pic of Grey Arbiter for a better idea of what Ramuh Egi could look like:

I will be EXTREMELY disappointed if this is what ramuh egi looks like. That would be incredibly lazy of the art team. I guess it's more in the right direction of what an egi should look like but that texture is ugly. The purple is supposed to be electricity no? It doesn't move. If they redid the model so that the electricity was moving I would be ok with it.

[Dyvid]

I will be EXTREMELY disappointed if this is what ramuh egi looks like. That would be incredibly lazy of the art team. I guess it's more in the right direction of what an egi should look like but that texture is ugly. The purple is supposed to be electricity no? It doesn't move. If they redid the model so that the electricity was moving I would be ok with it.

Get ready to be mad because he's beard won't be a Tesla ball. Go run Ramuh and see for yourself.

[Sequora]

Get ready to be mad because he's beard won't be a Tesla ball. Go run Ramuh and see for yourself.

Just because this is the model for the primal fight adds, doesn't mean this is what the egi's will look like. The grey arbiter model has been in the game data since 2.0 release. I remember seeing it shortly after the servers went live. As I said, it's closer to what I think the egi's should look like but the grey arbiter looks very unfinished. It's like the art team came up with the concept for it, and then just never finished it.