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    cassiomel78's Avatar
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    Essie Lunetta
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    Conjurer Lv 16

    Conjurer help please

    Hi, I am currently still a fairly low level conjurer. I am level 16 and am able to travel now but that also means raids/dungeons. I had my first last night and I found myself only concentrating on the hp bars of my party. I have a feeling I am doing something wrong? I feel I will mess up bad if I go from party member to enemy to do some damage and someone will need to be healed and i wont be able to switch back fast enough haha. Is this normal when new? And how do I get practice without pissing people off by trying all this out?
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    RhoddODduw's Avatar
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    A'rron Amariyo
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 64
    Easiest way around this is to create macros for your offensive spells for use inside party content.
    For example;
    /macroicon Aero (this will give your macro the aero picture and relevant cool down info)
    /ac "Aero" <tt> (this will cast the spell on the target of your target)

    Now you can target your tank and fire away!!
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    Last edited by RhoddODduw; 02-13-2015 at 12:23 AM.

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    Goji Degotye
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    Twintania
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    Botanist Lv 81
    It's normal, don't worry. You're gonna look at the bars a lot. Being able to look at them and the field/do damage is going to come with practice: once you learn when people are more less to take damage, you'll also know that it's safe to look away from the party list.

    If you are in a FC you can enter a dungeon with a premade party, so you can experiment as much as you want, but low level dungeons mobs don't hit very hard, so there is plenty of room for error anyway. If you mess up, don't panic and try to recover. You can start practicing dealing damage without using Cleric stance; once you are more confident in your abilities you can start going in Cleric Stance to do damage and switch out of it to heal. Keep in mind that any class can pretty much tank the first few dungeons mobs, so even if you let the tank die by accident, you can just keep healing whoever gets aggro (even yourself) and get through it.
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    Behemoth
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Yes it is normal, macroing is a great help... I'd actually go a step further with your macro

    /macroicon Aero
    /ac "aero" <t>
    /ac "aero" <f>
    /ac "aero" <tt>

    I use this on my scholar and whm now. <t> is target just like your regular aero spell, however if targeting friendlies it wont cast thus other two lines. <f> is for focus target, this will more often be helpfull at far higher levels but should lay groudwork for it now as 45+ you'll usually want to focus target the boss so you can see when its casting certain things. <tt> is target's target, so you can be on your tank or dps and hit what their targeting. these apply in this order, target? no, focus? no, target's target? yes

    also, if you use this macro; go into your chat settings and turn off error messages in the chat log you usually watch. I usually watch general, so removing it from that. This makes the No responses not clog up the chat log
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    Last edited by Asheilin; 02-13-2015 at 12:36 AM.

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    sciondar's Avatar
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    Drayce Biolith
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Since you're just starting, focusing on the group's hp is good. A good place to practice switching are with fates especially if you can team up with a friend. As you gain more comfort with your spells and timing you'll find your groove and be more confident in what you're doing in the dungeon. As a healer, keeping the team alive is more important than throwing out a spell or 2. That being said, it doesn't hurt to quickly throw an Aero onto the enemy that the group is attacking.

    Be patient with yourself and don't be afraid to tell the group at the start of the dungeon that you're new and open to suggestions, a lot of peole are understanding and willing to help.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by cassiomel78 View Post
    Hi, I am currently still a fairly low level conjurer. I am level 16 and am able to travel now but that also means raids/dungeons. I had my first last night and I found myself only concentrating on the hp bars of my party. I have a feeling I am doing something wrong? I feel I will mess up bad if I go from party member to enemy to do some damage and someone will need to be healed and i wont be able to switch back fast enough haha. Is this normal when new? And how do I get practice without pissing people off by trying all this out?
    Firstly, welcome to the healing role. You're doing nothing wrong by staring at the party bars. The trick, when you get to endgame, is to keep track of those bars while also dodging and handling mechanics. Tunnel vision is a very real problem for healers. But if you just want to stick to dungeons or such, you don't even need to worry about that.

    I've moved my party window closer to the center and, as others have mentioned, I've too found <tt> macros to be of great help. Good luck!
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    Deifact Kinspawn
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I've moved my party window closer to the center
    I find this helps alot, don't be afraid to play around with the UI editor (even though its a little unintuitive at first!) you can even resize your party bar and place it closer to the middle, so that you can still see that bars but it isn't obscuring your view!
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    Essie Lunetta
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    Conjurer Lv 16
    Wow, thank you all so much for this very helpful information. A few of you have mentioned macros. I no this is going to sound so new lol.. but I have no clue what that really is. Also, I am using ps3 and ps4 not a computer. If that matters at all.
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    Last edited by cassiomel78; 02-13-2015 at 01:26 AM.

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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Macros are a built in thing you can use on any platform that can play XIV. It's basically a way to write out a series of actions, or just an action you want to work slightly differently. Pull up the system menu, the same one you would use to log out, and you should see an option to take you to a macro editor. Go to one of the squares are just start putting text in. For example:

    Code:
    /micon Aero
    /ac "Aero" <tt>
    Then you can put that on your hotbar like a regular abilities. In this macro, the /micon command gives it the icon of aero and makes the cooldown display as well. <tt> means "target of my target", which for me, usually works out to be the tank's target. So I'm targeting the tank, and aero/stone/etc will cast on whatever the tank is attacking.

    Some guides that may help you get started with macros: text guide video guide alternate video guide
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    Julius Maxwell
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    You can also try using a mouse over macro. It can make swiching targets fast/eayer. Thou you have to keep an eye out were you curser is as with it you can some times miss heal if your mouse is over the wrog player. I usly try keeping my curser over the party list to keep that a rare occurrence.

    Heres the mouse over i use:

    /micon "Cure"
    /ac "Cure" <mo>
    /ac "Cure" <f>
    /ac "Cure" <t>

    This also dousnt require you to have a player targeted to heal. So you can have a mob targeted and use your mouse over to case a heal on a player.
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    Last edited by Legretta; 02-13-2015 at 01:19 PM.

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