abuse of kick

[Naylis]

It's odd because I have never had this problem before and god knows how sometimes I can misbehave and be toxic. (to a lesser extent of course, I hate swearing...)
For instance, yesterday I did CT2 and as I was in a hurry, I pulled every bosses and adds with eos and someone ended up marking my fairy with a cross, everyone was amused but no kick.

On HM dungeons as well, when I'm bored I go bananas all of a sudden and I end up pulling 6+ adds at once with my pet, nobody is angry at me as long as it works x)

[lotti]

Pull faster, OP. They can't kick if you are in combat.

i simply don't wanna play with the terror to be kicked everytime i use roulette (90% of the time) for get some friend of the other member in

Wait, they vote kicked the tank in front of the last boss? Really? Majority has to vote kick right? I'm not sure why people would be stupid enough to vote kick the tank right before the last boss and rather wait god knows how long for a replacement then just finish the dungeon.

they vote to kick me in front of the final boss simply because after that they (probably) invite their friend to get 100 soldiery bonus, or for help him to finish some quest..i don't really know why..but as you see in this 3d many other ppl had similar problem..

(sorry bad eng)

[Nyalia]

If you can do the run fast enough from second to last boss to final boss, just don't roll on a piece of loot like someone said until the final boss is pulled if you think that's a possibility. Of course, that doesn't give much time, and they can always deliberately wipe on the final boss, so that doesn't really help much.


This is a clear abuse of the vote kick feature. If this happens to you, you can and should report them. I report players regularly for inappropriate behavior (ie: spamming the name of a female body part along with <se.1> dozens of times in alliance chat during the final boss of WoD, shouting explicit sexual propositions with inappropriate names, extreme cases of "raidrage" (namecalling, personal attacks, threats of physical violence, etc after a wipe), and so on). 10-60 minutes after I make a report, a GM always contacts me. I've never NOT been contacted by a GM shortly after making such a report.

In my report, I include a copy/paste of the offending messages from my chat log with timestamps turned on, I include my server, the place it occurred, and my timezone. They ask a few questions from a straight-forward script, stuff like: they ask to confirm the timezone for my log timestamps, they ask if there's anything else that was said before/after that I wanted to share with them, they ask if there's anything else they can do for me, they tell me to blacklist the person to prevent further trouble from them (which works oh so well in dungeons :P), and they tell me to post on the Official Forums (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/, if you need a link!) if I have any suggestions I would like to share with the community and developers. They then tell me that I have given them enough information for them to investigate <offending player's name> and that they will not be able to share the results of their investigation with me nor any actions taken against them as a result (which totally makes sense for what I hope are obvious reasons).

Side note - GM tells have a distinctive sound that differs from the normal tell noise, you can reply to them with /r just like any other tells, and unlike normal tells, you can reply to them while in a dungeon.

Has anything been done to the people who were in violation of the ToS? I don't know, and I don't particularly care. I don't particularly want people to be banned for behaving disruptively, inappropriately, or cheating, I just want them to stop what they're doing. SE definitely at least gives out emailed warnings to offenders threatening bans if they continue to violate the ToS. I'd think even just that would be enough to stop the majority of inappropriate behavior.


tl;dr: When people violate the ToS (and vote-kick abuse is definitely a violation), report them via the in-game form. Include a timestamped log supporting your claim of abuse, even if it's just a log of nothing being said during the dungeon and then a kick out of the blue - that's still abuse. If you need the names of the players who didn't say anything, either use loot roll messages or check your combat log. Make sure you stay on for a bit afterward so a GM can contact you, though they can talk to you while you're in a dungeon so don't be worried about going right back in. If they can't get in touch with you, it's likely that they will not be able to really do anything, though they will still send you an in-game support message stating that they couldn't get a hold of you that you can reply to.