Hunt Griefing: Solution to Community Woes?

[Jodou]

People who find the hunt mobs have all the rights to immediately start killing them. It is their choice or not to wait for the masses.

I think people are really confusing hunters with griefers. Hunters find marks and share with their party/LS' because it's a community effort. The griefers show up after a call and immediately pull because they know anyone already there will engage and save them from dying. They're the people that end up on blacklists, kicked from LS', and removed from groups but the flow of information can't be controlled so they continue to show up regardless.

To the point, if hunts were worthy of being called an NM, I very much doubt there would be much complaining since fights would take longer than a minute to kill.

[Mugiawara]

I've never done hunts but honestly, there is not much you can do.
People I've seen as a by-stander call out for hunts, and people try and wait for people to come by but they die...
Some here in Balmung even apologize for it but I never seen any call-outs where so and so did this.
You just can't wait for the entire server to come for some monster that dies in an instant.
Be grateful people are actually trying to wait, but waiting for every single person just will not happen
even if they increased the HP pool someone STILL may miss it and complain about it. Bump up the HP though to alleviate a bit.

At the end of the day...It's a hunt, if people wanna be impolite and pull instantly, oh well then.
They aren't even being impolite honestly...it's a free for all, again, be thankful people are telling you it's up.
Unless SE demands people to wait for 10mill people so your PC/Console can crash then nothing you can do about it.

[MomomiMomi]

I think people are really confusing hunters with griefers. Hunters find marks and share with their party/LS' because it's a community effort. The griefers show up after a call and immediately pull because they know anyone already there will engage and save them from dying. They're the people that end up on blacklists, kicked from LS', and removed from groups but the flow of information can't be controlled so they continue to show up regardless.

You're just making up your own definitions here. A hunter is anyone who is hunting down a mark. They don't need to share information with anyone to be a hunter. They don't need to wait for anyone.

To the point, if hunts were worthy of being called an NM, I very much doubt there would be much complaining since fights would take longer than a minute to kill.

They do take more than a minute to kill when they're fought as they were intended to be. If people would stop breaking the system by inviting the whole server to kill it, you wouldn't be having this problem.

[Avenger]

People don't wait ... for people who don't attend anymore?

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."

[Nestama]

I'm really tired of the rage and players simply not bothering to attend hunts due to all the griefing. This is not an issue for the community to fix SE, it's yours.

I don't attend Hunts because it is a terrible system in the game and I will not be caught dead dealing with those glorified -weaker than- FATE's again. If I want to upgrade my Poetics gear, I'll do it the Final Coil (and eventually World of Darkness) way.

[Avenger]

They do take more than a minute to kill when they're fought as they were intended to be. If people would stop breaking the system by inviting the whole server to kill it, you wouldn't be having this problem.

Hunts are currently very oversubscribed and competitive in an anti-social way. It's frustrating to be hunting with your party all over the map searching, then when you find the mark a large group comes and kills it before anyone else in your party can get there.

Or you find the hunt when you're not in a party; nobody is nearby so you /shout the location and either ask for /invite or try to recruit a party in PF, then several full parties show up and kill it instantly.

So apparently the rule is "don't ever shout the location until your whole party is there and the mark's HP is down to 75%, and hope that no other party shows up before then."

It's a shame because I really enjoyed hunting in 2.4 - it was always exciting when you found the mark you were searching for, and it was also a nice way to meet and interact with people from our server.

[Xellos2099]

The people who claim that if u find it, u kill it... fine. But those same people will complain if people don;t call out what other people find. there is NO NEED for hunt to be a competition unless u are a jackass.

[Jodou]

You're just making up your own definitions here. A hunter is anyone who is hunting down a mark. They don't need to share information with anyone to be a hunter. They don't need to wait for anyone.

The people I'm referring to are not hunting though. They respond only to callouts just to grief.

[Shadray]

I hunt, as in I look for the mobs (not sitting round waiting for a LS to call) when I find one I call it to my LS's. I never pull the mob, just wait for someone to get bored, yet still there are people shouting about early pulls. How can it be an early pull if I find it, call it someone else shows up and pulls it?