You are not a fail.

[NyarukoW]

Where is it stated anywhere that the DF is not to be used to speed run? Can you clearly define what I am supposed to use it for? I have not been able to locate that specific set of instructions thus far.

Where is it stated that you do NOT use toilet water for washing your hair? Or maybe you are bald so your head. You be hard pressed to locate instructions against that.

And where is it ever stated that the DF was ever intended for speed runs? Get real. It take random luck to get a group that can and wants to do speed run on the DF, but to demand it, or expect it is out of the question. And definitely do NOT insult people that go less than warp speed 9.99 on the DF.

.... And what do I mean by the lowest common denominator? The people who do the minimal required to finish a dungeon. ...

And so they get the clear without wipe, so what is problem? Why do they need to cater to the speed runner? Get a pre-formed party and speed run to your hearts content, just don't expect the DF to get you a speed running party, that is not its purpose.

[DoctorPepper]

Where is it stated that you do NOT use toilet water for washing your hair? Or maybe you are bald so your head. You be hard pressed to locate instructions against that.

lol this has nothing to do with how this game is intended to be played. Typical that you can't come up with any actual facts so you just throw out a random example of something completely irrelevant to the conversation and pretend it proves your point.

The person asked where you got your information so why don't you try answering the actual question?

You ask where is it ever stated that DF is for speed runs but you cannot provide any information about where it is ever stated that DF is only for slow runs either.

Personally I say that DF is for both types of runs, and it's up to the people playing the game to decide how they're going to play it. If the devs absolutely think something should be done a certain way then they would do something to prevent it from being done the wrong way. They added an ilvl sync of 110 to dungeons that wouldn't be challenging past i70 so I think their actions speak louder than your words.

[NyarukoW]

...hrow out a random example...
Personally I say that DF is for both types of runs, ...

And you can use toilet water for drinking too while you are at it, I'm sure you've caught your pet cat or dog doing that and had to get into a habit of keeping the lid down. The DF is meant to bring players together to play together, not for players to abuse each other with forced speed runs. Even those with monkey butts for brains can understand that the DF is not designed for bring speed runners together, so it is unreasonable to expect to speed run on the DF, anymore can you expect to clear or much less 1-shot T9 on the DF.

[Cadmar]

And you can use toilet water for drinking too while you are at it, I'm sure you've caught your pet cat or dog doing that and had to get into a habit of keeping the lid down. The DF is meant to bring players together to play together, not for players to abuse each other with forced speed runs. Even those with monkey butts for brains can understand that the DF is not designed for bring speed runners together, so it is unreasonable to expect to speed run on the DF, anymore can you expect to clear or much less 1-shot T9 on the DF.

Since you fail at answering direct questions with direct answers, I'm gonna keep it going just for my own amusement.

Why could I not just flip your argument around on you? Maybe it is the people who are slower and do not understand the dungeons as well that should be using PF and leave DF to the people that have a firm grasp on the content and can blaze through it? Who is to say what PF vs. DF are to be used for. Your state your opinions as if they were facts and nothing good ever comes of that.

I don't expect you to actually answer that in any coherent manner though. So I will sit back and anxiously await the next awkward response about dog and cats eating their own feces... or something.

[DoctorPepper]

The DF is meant to bring players together to play together

This is the only reasonable thing you've said in this entire thread. I agree with this statement completely, DF is meant to bring players (of ALL types) together to play together. That's the entire purpose of DF and how they intend it to be used. It's not acceptable to shame or harass people under any circumstance and the people who do that are pricks, regardless of their justification.

Your problem is that you fail to perceive the fact that there are a lot of different types of players. They do not all share your opinion and your opinion on speed running is not absolute. If you get into a party via DF with multiple people who insist on speed running you have the option to leave, the same thing goes for if you want to speed run and get into a party with multiple people who want a slow run, you have the option to leave then as well. Quit trying to force your ideals onto everybody else, you're allowed to have an opinion but so are they and if they want to speed run it's up to the party to decide, nobody put you in charge and I'm pretty sure you're not on SE's payroll.

Quit trying to add rules to the equation when there are none, if the devs intend on not letting people do something they will make changes to prevent it but instead they chose to make changes that still allow it to happen. The devs are the only people who can say how this game is intended to be played and they have spoken with their own actions.

[Cadmar]

Where is it stated that you do NOT use toilet water for washing your hair? Or maybe you are bald so your head. You be hard pressed to locate instructions against that.

And where is it ever stated that the DF was ever intended for speed runs? Get real. It take random luck to get a group that can and wants to do speed run on the DF, but to demand it, or expect it is out of the question.