You are not a fail.

[Mishini_Dracoto]

Since I Duty Find almost everything. . . . (because, sadly, the people who I know, would be morepainful to run with than even random DF queues lol) most people in the DF seem to want to complete their duty, in a timel manner. Nobody ever seems to be upset for clearing a dungeon in only 20 minutes or less. People complain, when the run takes 30 min. 45 min. an hour+.

Yes, SE gives us 90 minutes. hat 90 minutes includes room for lots of wipes, and learning the mechanics of each boss. Guess what? Most of the bosses, I figured out their mechanics on the fly, with one or wo exceptions. So we don't really need 90 minutes.

If you really like spending time in tose dungeons, wh not do the same dungeon 9 times, 10 minutes a piece?

and, if your Duty-Found party members can't go that fast, yelling them isn't going to make them better. Look at what Fran does lolololol.

Just chill out, and play through he dungeon.

[Staris]

You are not a fail.
If you get a 59 on your exam and 60 or above is needed for passing.

Oh wait yes you are.

[Ladyaceous]

You are not a fail.
If you get a 59 on your exam and 60 or above is needed for passing.

Oh wait yes you are.

I think everyone would agree that wiping is failing.

[NyarukoW]

You are not a fail.
If you get a 59 on your exam and 60 or above is needed for passing.

Oh wait yes you are.

Nah you got that wrong. Where are the tiger mommies? You have to get 95/100 to pass and that still get 5 lashes, because it is not a fast enough speed run.

The thing the is game played for fun. You can go 3x slower than a typicall run and still be ahead of the time limit bu 10 minutes, so the passing grade is more like 30.

[Lucke]

Here's what I learned as a tank (if anyone cares, probably not):

As long as you do what your role is supposed to do, I'll be happy and won't complain.

DPS: Your job is to kill stuff. I don't care how you go about it, I don't care what rotations you use. Just kill the mob(s) before it kills me.
Healer: You are there to keep me alive. I don't care if you wanna DPS or sit there with your thumb up your butt waiting for someone to take damage, your job is to keep me (and the DPS) alive. Don't care if you Holy spam, or add some DoTs or whatever, just make sure I don't die.

I've had healers who go into "DPS road mode" and actually stay in Cleric Stance so long, they actually forget to heal me and I die. When That happens I'll call them out. Sometimes, I'll pull a group and die right away, either because my gear can't support the number of mobs, or the healer can't keep up (usually both). When that happens, I'll apologize and start pulling smaller groups. I've also had DPS pull out ahead of me and start pulling mobs complaining I'm "too slow". I just let the fool die a couple times. More often than not, the healer is on the same page and let's them rot for a few minutes.

Bottom line: You are in the group for one reason: Tanking, doing dmg, or healing. I don't think wrong to call out someone who is not doing their role. People should not be told how to play. Like others have said, if we get to the end and get our tomes, the party was a success.

[Magusrex]

This should all be very simple. Communicate, don't run off without asking. If a speed run will bother you articulate why in a polite manner. if you need to go faster explain it. If you are courteous and polite you should be able to find common ground. For example "going super fast stresses me out, could we go slower?" You might get..."No problem" Or maybe " I have really good gear, we can do this a little faster, I will pause, make sure everyone is ready and gather up a reasonable amount of mobs, we try it and if it was easy next time ill get a few more." "If it feels like too much let me know and I will back off" Basically like my wife tells her preschoolers.."Use your words, say please and thank you, be respectful to one another" This should be a no brainer.

[Lemuria]

You guys realize that the design of recent dungeons has been SPECIFICALLY to prevent speed runs right? They've effectively 'gated' areas now. Whether thats needing magitek keys to open barriers, or Ochu's guarding doorways, or gates that simply don't open until the mobs on the side are dead. It's pretty clear that SE isn't really a fan of speed runs.

Personally, I'll pace the dungeon based on the lowest player. If I see someone coming into the fight in lower tier gear, the last thing I'm going to do is tank an entire army.

[Sho86]

"I do not fail. I succeed in finding what does not work." :P

[Parodine]

No one should be 'harassed' for not taking any of the OP's lines. Alternatively, people who politely suggest ways to improve efficiency shouldn't in turn be harassed by those same people. Let's all be polite, etc.

[Kroyipi]

Greetings,

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