Healers doing damage

[UlricCraft]

Healer DPS is absurdly strong.

BiS BLM = 600+ int
BiS WHM = 600+ mnd

Cleric stance swaps the mnd/int value, and adds +10% damage.

Holy = 200 +10%
Flare = 260

WHM can cast Holy 20 times before they run dry on MP, BLM can cast it 4 times before rotating again.
In any short group pull with more than 3 enemies, WHM DPS can arguably be the strongest DPS in the game.

(This only applies to trash pulls! Hehe)

[Lyzern]

Healer DPS is absurdly strong.

BiS BLM = 600+ int
BiS WHM = 600+ mnd

Cleric stance swaps the mnd/int value, and adds +10% damage.

Holy = 200 +10%
Flare = 260

WHM can cast Holy 20 times before they run dry on MP, BLM can cast it 4 times before rotating again.
In any short group pull with more than 3 enemies, WHM DPS can arguably be the strongest DPS in the game.

(This only applies to trash pulls! Hehe)

Thanks for those numbers! Really good info

[Cynfael]

Healer DPS is absurdly strong.

BiS BLM = 600+ int
BiS WHM = 600+ mnd

Cleric stance swaps the mnd/int value, and adds +10% damage.

Holy = 200 +10%
Flare = 260

WHM can cast Holy 20 times before they run dry on MP, BLM can cast it 4 times before rotating again.
In any short group pull with more than 3 enemies, WHM DPS can arguably be the strongest DPS in the game.

(This only applies to trash pulls! Hehe)

Holy is indeed very strong, and your point is good, but don't forget to factor in AF when comparing AoE potency Flare hits about twice as hard as Holy.

Aside from Spell Speed debates, this is THE hot button topic for many of us on this sub-forum. While there are a few people who maintain an extremely narrow view of the healer role, I think that the majority of skilled players maintain that assisting with DPS is something that good, active healers do whenever it doesn't interfere with their ability to heal.

In short: your FC doesn't know how to play WHM or is giving you wrong-context advice. Not using Holy in faceroll dungeons should be punishable by...well...something. Maybe the Mudra rabbit?

[Coldea]

Healer DPS is absurdly strong.

BiS BLM = 600+ int
BiS WHM = 600+ mnd

Cleric stance swaps the mnd/int value, and adds +10% damage.

Holy = 200 +10%
Flare = 260

WHM can cast Holy 20 times before they run dry on MP, BLM can cast it 4 times before rotating again.
In any short group pull with more than 3 enemies, WHM DPS can arguably be the strongest DPS in the game.

(This only applies to trash pulls! Hehe)

This is not 100% accurate though... It is even pretty bad numbers you're giving..
Holy costs 532 MP, a decently geared healer has 5k++ MP. This amount will let you use Holy approx 12-13 times (using Shroud included), but not 20 times...
If you spam Holy, your potency / sec is 200 / 3 = 66,7.

Flare has a 260 potency, but Astral Fire 3 increases your fire damage by 80%, so the 'apparent potency' is actually 468. The rotation is (once the first rotation is done) Fire3, Fire2, Fire2, Flare.
As fire3 isnt AOE, the dmg is negligible, but we will count the time required to cast it in the rotation.
Flare potency : 468 (with AF3), Fire2 potency : 180 (with AF3).
A full rotation takes 3+3+3+4 sec to cast, for a total of 828 potency, which is 63,7 potency / sec.

So yeah, WHM are great in AOE, but it is not sustained... And the numbers are close...

[UlricCraft]

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I'll concede that my numbers were a little basic and pulled from the air, but they weren't incorrect. (The #holy well... Yeah okay)

Just tested, I can continuously cast 16 Holy's in-combat. 17 with food.
About 14 with Swiftcast and PoM.

@i106 both classes (My blm isn't exactly geared)
520 Fire II with AF3.
810 Flare no AF3.
1370 Flare with AF3.
760 Holy.

I won't argue parsers or number because there's too much variation in circumstance. [Also not allowed! D;]
I merely wanted to point out that WHM can potentially be the highest rated DPS in certain situations.
(I've yet to be out dps'd in ST trash pulls by an incredible margin)