Thread: Refurbishing 1.0 Stats for use in current version.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Its less a problem on weapons than it is on other gear. +X% and multiplier bonuses auto scale based on other gear. -X% damage taken auto scales with amount of damage inflicted on the character (This is why Rampart is better than Foresight as a defensive CD verse physical attacks).

On a game like this were gear has a short lifespan, this kind of % bonuses doesn't really affect the overall balance, in most cases upgrading a piece level will give you a greater bonus than a 0.5% on the overall damage, the difference is not that big as long as they can keep it balanced, lets say the relic weapon has +5% jump and 15 crit, while soldiery has 30 crit instead of jump bonus, the damage output will be more or less the same, so the piece won't be mandatory, i will just feel more like dragoon weapon.

Now lets say 4 patch later they introduce another piece with a 5% bonus on jump, would you use these 2 together when the new weapon or armor is clearly superior on main stats and secondary ones? as you can see, this fear for specific stats has no place in the current system, to the point Yoshi already said in the last e3 that hey were already looking into it.

Originally Posted by Jamie28334

Well surely this is just a case of offering more types of materia?
If a weapon has 4 slots to it and you chose to have Jump DMG +5% then you would lose out on using that materia slot for say DET.

I'm sure it would be an easy mathematical solution for the developers to figure out. It sure would be a lot more interesting than just the standard 3-4 commonly used materias.

Now this kind of freedom is the real danger, this could easily destroy the balance, not that i care, but some people seems to care.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

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The difference is, the new pieces are not increasing stats that way, in case of weapons, the weapon damage value is the most important, if you use a weaker version, no matter what the secondary stats are, you're gimping yourself, so keeping an old weapon for a secondary stat is not worth it.

In case of armors, it's more complex, but the case is the same, you can choose between a i110, 120 or 130 based on the secondary stat, if you care to, but once the game hits i150-160, keeping a 110 or 120 piece is unthinkable, because you're affecting your main stat, vitality, defense and magic defense. So the game already have good measures to combat imbalance caused by specific stats, and to keep old pieces where they deserve.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

The phrase "We are looking into it" in this case doesn't mean "they are coming" but "we know there are problems with implementing such a thing and are trying to figure out if it is viable." One of the example of why they are being careful with this was actually about a shield that increased Shield Bash/Shield Swipe damage. They know it could easily become best in slot over higher level pieces.

And that's exactly what i wanted to say, some people want it, and they are looking into a way ti implement it without hurting the game, the fact is, everything can be balanced, it's not about if we should or should not have it, it's about if we want it or not, once the feedback is gathered, their job is look into its balance for its addition.

Let me say that i don't think they removed these stats to keep the game balanced the way some people thinks, they had a year and half to rebuild the game, so i can't even imagine how much they had for testing and balance purposes, they just released the game with basic stats because that's what they could achieve in such a short time.