Once you start giving out the Carbontwines

[Utsu]

Not everyone does coil and to be honest it's not even necessary to gear up a job.

So why do you need i130 gear if you don't Coil ? i120 is enough to duty and chill.

Nonsense.

[Lemuria]

So why do you need i130 gear if you don't Coil ? i120 is enough to duty and chill.

Nonsense.

Why do you need i130 gear even if you DO coil? Again, same argument. This game is all about gear grinding ultimately. Whether you raid or not doesn't even factor into it. Both the endgame content and the rest can be done without the highest-tier gear, so this argument is tired and defeated.

[Utsu]

Why do you need i130 gear even if you DO coil? Again, same argument. This game is all about gear grinding ultimately. Whether you raid or not doesn't even factor into it. Both the endgame content and the rest can be done without the highest-tier gear, so this argument is tired and defeated.

You don't even know what you're talking about.

Do you really think we're slacking the rest of the week after cleaning FCoB ? The top CLs are doing hardcore optimisation for their jobs and rosters, speedkills, solohealing, etc.

The i130 is/should be an achievement AND a tool for raiders, better call us elitists if you want, I just don't know why a lot of ppl want top ilvl gear without any useful way to use it.

Now, can you answer, why do you need i130 gear as non-raider ? i120 is enough for what you're doing, it will be enough for the 3.0 too.

[ScarletDawn]

You don't even know what you're talking about.

Do you really think we're slacking the rest of the week after cleaning FCoB ? The top CLs are doing hardcore optimisation for their jobs and rosters, speedkills, solohealing, etc.

The i130 is/should be an achievement AND a tool for raiders, better call us elitists if you want, I just don't know why a lot of ppl want top ilvl gear without any useful way to use it.

Now, can you answer, why do you need i130 gear as non-raider ? i120 is enough for what you're doing, it will be enough for the 3.0 too.

Why should only people who do FcoB be the only ones aloud to have ilvl 130 gear? For those who have not unlocked the content or have a GROUP to do it, being limited in what you can and cant have is terrible and turns you away from the game. Again why should only a minority of people who do a tiny bit of the end game content be aloud to gain the highest level in gear?

[Warlyx]

Why should only people who do FcoB be the only ones aloud to have ilvl 130 gear? For those who have not unlocked the content or have a GROUP to do it, being limited in what you can and cant have is terrible and turns you away from the game. Again why should only a minority of people who do a tiny bit of the end game content be aloud to gain the highest level in gear?

with carbontine u upgrade ironworks to ilvl 130 , + encrypted tomestome for weapon

[Ultimatecalibur]

with carbontine u upgrade ironworks to ilvl 130 , + encrypted tomestome for weapon

Encrypted Tomestone isn't available outside FCoB yet.

ScarletDawn's complaint wasn't about that you couldn't get i130 gear, but that Utsu was saying that i130 was/should only be important to raiders.

[Warlyx]

Encrypted Tomestone isn't available outside FCoB yet.

ScarletDawn's complaint wasn't about that you couldn't get i130 gear, but that Utsu was saying that i130 was/should only be important to raiders.

it will be avaliable at WoD or Gold saucer thats for sure .

[Utsu]

Why should only people who do FcoB be the only ones aloud to have ilvl 130 gear? For those who have not unlocked the content or have a GROUP to do it, being limited in what you can and cant have is terrible and turns you away from the game. Again why should only a minority of people who do a tiny bit of the end game content be aloud to gain the highest level in gear?

I already answered, please read my post again : you don't have any useful way to use the i130 gear if you don't clean the Coil.

You're just answering me with other questions, I still wait a correct answer : why do you really need i130 gear if the i120 gear is enough for what you're doing ?

[ScarletDawn]

I already answered, please read my post again : you don't have any useful way to use the i130 gear if you don't clean the Coil.

You're just answering me with other questions, I still wait a correct answer : why do you really need i130 gear if the i120 gear is enough for what you're doing ?

So your attitude is you don't raid so you don't deserve ilvl 130 gear. And this is why people are labeled as elitist. Your saying im not aloud to have gear because i dont go FcoB, i pay my sub im aloud to have the entire game.

[Utsu]

So your attitude is you don't raid so you don't deserve ilvl 130 gear. And this is why people are labeled as elitist. Your saying im not aloud to have gear because i dont go FcoB, i pay my sub im aloud to have the entire game.

I'm not saying that at all, what the hell...

It's not about "you don't deserve", it's about "you don't need it", did you really read my posts ?

Come on, please, could you please stop calling us elitists when you seem to feel inferiors by yourself with your bad interpretations ?

And you have the entire game, FCoB is not closed.