a raid group i know...

[Lollie]

We do everyone gets their own. Obviously the other options are high over all dps, but find this way a) increases everyone's awareness as to where the fight loop is when you have to watch for it and b) prevents accidental collisions "if it ain't on you get your rear to the left.

[Tiggy]

In our group the bard grabs the blue puddle and gets every red fire. We've been beating it for 7 weeks now and it hasn't wiped us except for when we were learning. It's not much at all for one person to handle. There are plenty of mechanics in this coil where one person generally takes care of it. Especially on the healer side. I see no reason to avoid doing it here when we already have to do similar roles elsewhere.

[JayCommon]

So few raid groups that have a SMN in this thread ;-;

I run MNK/NIN/BRD(me)/SMN and it is so easy for a SMN to take care of all the blue fires because he can apply fresh dots to Phoenix and pop Sprint to handle redfire every time.

I did it at first until I read the tooltip of blue flame (Ooshima some of do actually do that!) and realized I was being nerfed for 5-6 seconds hardcore so we switched it up. I swap the purgatory with our SCH now and we let our WHM tunnel heal. Also my SCH and I both rock about 7k HPs and our WHM doesn't have any crafted i110 so his HP is considerably lower. Works very well for us.

I'm also interested in one of the comments I read where the melee help burn Bennu? Melee doesn't leave the boss in my group. For us, it results in faster pushes. I just manage my CD's differently than normal in 1st/2nd phase. I literally blow everything I have and solo the first Bennu, not even dot help from SMN. 2nd bennu the SMN banes the boss and spread his dots to bennu and may throw an additional Ruin at it but aside from the dots, I'm the only one who actually focuses 2nd bennu. Should be noted that our PLD grabs first Bennu and our WAR grabs 2nd bennu so his DPS helps the push on non-CD Bennu's as well. 60sec in between Bennu, 2 min CD for Raging Strikes. By 3rd Bennu spawn I have all CD's back and repeat the whole process. We normally get 4 bennus with about 20-30 seconds before 5th would spawn.


But we learned long ago to be flexible with strats. Not everything works for every raid set-up. We experimented and found what works best for us. It's cool to read the different ways people handle these mechanics

[ExiaQuanta]

Our BRD deals with all the Bluefires (which is...2 or 3 per run? I should know this but don't lol). He has it timed really well, so he barely loses DPS. As for the Brand, our SCH runs into our WHM every time, throughout the entire fight (yes, our Heals have it even in last phase). We also do 4-2-2 (tank/ranged/melee) for the Font.

Im the BRD that does Blue/Red flames and pretty much this^

Most of the time you could say a Bennu comes up every other brand, and with that in mind you have an idea on when to pop cooldowns where they wont got to waste with blue flame debuff. Sometimes using cooldowns in between each set of brand would allow you to kill the bennu before a red flame is cast anyway making dps lost minimal. If anything you shouldnt have blue flames on no longer than 3-4 seconds.

[Ophie-Mio]

So few raid groups that have a SMN in this thread ;-;

I run MNK/NIN/BRD(me)/SMN and it is so easy for a SMN to take care of all the blue fires because he can apply fresh dots to Phoenix and pop Sprint to handle redfire every time.

We run MNK/BLM/SMN/BRD. Our smn used to handle the kiting on T7 but we have the BRD handle the bluefire because he pops in the hole only for a few seconds. He got the timing down. :O
But yeah, our SMN is badass. She's usually top in the ranks of enmity right below our mnk and usually fighting with the blm.

[loreleidiangelo]

We run DRG/NIN/BLM and me as SMN and I run Fires without a hitch. My DPS is not-so-awesome, so I usually assign myself to do mechanics like that since I have really good pattern recognition and raid awareness. It's all about knowing the strengths and weaknesses of your raidmates, I think, though of course in pugs that's really hard to guage. Either way, I can't recommend anyone other than SCH/SMN/BRD/WHM to do Fires...it's too big of a DPS loss on any other job to do them.

[JayCommon]

We run MNK/BLM/SMN/BRD. Our smn used to handle the kiting on T7 but we have the BRD handle the bluefire because he pops in the hole only for a few seconds. He got the timing down. :O
But yeah, our SMN is badass. She's usually top in the ranks of enmity right below our mnk and usually fighting with the blm.

Cool!

Yeah, no point in switching things up once your team already has them down. And I can understand why people would prefer a BLM over a SMN, but there are competent SMNs out there that are capable of putting up very respectable numbers.

And literally the only times I need to ballad for him, is because we are progressing and people wipe so he snags the Raises, or at lulls in the fight (first DB in t13 comes to mind) where I battle voice a Ballad for the healers for 30s and he just happens to benefit from it as well

[Elim]

I do all the blackfires, redfire/bluefire, last two stacks of fire fountain and run the benu macro as SCH. I DPS all of phase one and two save for a few lustrates here and there to help out my WHM partner. I'm told my DPS spikes around 300.

If anyone is wondering, in phase two our WHM deals with flames of unforgiveness alone by passing it between himself and our BLM. Our BLM just stands still while it happens and turrets so it doesn't effect his DPS.

Basically both healers take on as much responsibility as possible in order to free up our DPS.

edit:

My groups current setup is: BRD/BLM/NIN/MNK for awhile we ran BLM/NIN/MNK/MNK while our BRD was on vacation. Three melee is a pain in the ass, but nice DPS.

[Zumi]

After reading this I am surprised so many people don't use the healers for it since its the only way we done it.

[Noahlimits]

After reading this I am surprised so many people don't use the healers for it since its the only way we done it.

Most groups I know on Gilgamesh have the bard do it. DPS is a joke in these fights now and it's not like DPS ever have many mechanics they have to deal with. Healers passing brand in second phase, tanks in final phase.