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  1. #21
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleD View Post
    yeah, I so wish the melee can cover for us damaging Benu when we're blue flamed, but they're busy pounding on Pheonix and oblivious lol. I don't think any of our party members even know about the 90% damage debuff lol. I didn't even notice until I figured out I was hitting for shit everytime I had blue flame lol
    We have tank hold Bennu at spawn under Phoenix so me and NIN can tab onto it, burn to around 30-40%, tank pulls out and BRD n BLM finishes it off.
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  2. #22
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    We have tank hold Bennu at spawn under Phoenix so me and NIN can tab onto it, burn to around 30-40%, tank pulls out and BRD n BLM finishes it off.
    Most group does that, but there are also a lot of times one of the melee forgets about it or the range forgets about bennu, or when the bennu is being pulled away the BRD is on bluefire debuff and the BLM alone isn't enough to finish off. Just a general observation.
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  3. #23
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Our BRD deals with all the Bluefires (which is...2 or 3 per run? I should know this but don't lol). He has it timed really well, so he barely loses DPS. As for the Brand, our SCH runs into our WHM every time, throughout the entire fight (yes, our Heals have it even in last phase). We also do 4-2-2 (tank/ranged/melee) for the Font.
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  4. #24
    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LilianaNighthawk View Post
    Im pretty sure this is the common strat. How else would you do it, have the bard get them all? No way thats ridiculous
    Having the BRD get all of them works out to higher raid DPS, as BRDs can continue to DPS on the move at range, but others cannot.
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  5. #25
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    Having the BRD get all of them works out to higher raid DPS, as BRDs can continue to DPS on the move at range, but others cannot.
    You mean your scholar can't?

    I'm pretty sure SCH doing the blue/red fire mechanics instead of BRDs results in higher raid DPS.
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  6. #26
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    Necato's Avatar
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    Necato Feol
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Don't you guys read the tool tip of the various buffs/debuffs during progression lol

    It cuts the healing you receive too.
    It took 2 weeks to my group to realize I'm losing DPS with bluefire mechanic even though I told them from day one. We used to make it to the Bennu phase right at the moment the 5th Bennu spawns "We need more DPS!". Got the usual "Bennu is dying slowly, wake up !" while debuffed and running to the redfire. Good times !
    Well actually, nothing changed. I'm still doing it even though I told them pets were not affected by the debuff or that casters can sprint if needed...

    You know, we're Bards, if there is a mechanic that needs movement, it's on us no matter what this is. Same for mechanics that involved no movement (hello T8 !), or tanking weak adds. And Renauds in the old T7...
    We're the punching-balls of the parties !
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  7. #27
    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    You mean your scholar can't?

    I'm pretty sure SCH doing the blue/red fire mechanics instead of BRDs results in higher raid DPS.
    You can do SCH as well, that works fine. I was more responding to her speaking about having their members all get it themselves. Having a BRD take the debuff for 2-3 seconds is much less loss.
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  8. #28
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    Karen_Cerfrumos's Avatar
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    Character
    Rera Kando
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    In our group I do the redfire (on WHM). It's actually pretty easy because unlike a bard, I can sprint.
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  9. #29
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Should have the SCH do it probably the best way to do red/blue fire.
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  10. #30
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    Claire Abigail
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    Coeurl
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    our group makes the bard do it. We understand he'll loose dps from day one but it's a bigger dps lost for a melee to disengage just do pick up a blue fire then run to a red fire. There's a mutual agreement between our dps and the bard, you do that mechanic and dont worry about your dps, we'll handle your dps. we this strat we always hit 4 bennus. Sure there are time where our crits just wont proc and firestarter just wont come out and the melee got blue fire twice but hey, all we had to do to still hit 4 bennu was lb the boss.
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