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    rhaqa's Avatar
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    Rhaq'a Panipahrn
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    a raid group i know...

    In turn 12 they all run theyre own red fire by picking up blue fire. Is this common or should they designate someone to do red/fire?
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    Liliana Nighthawk
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    Im pretty sure this is the common strat. How else would you do it, have the bard get them all? No way thats ridiculous
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    Yoongi Mio
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    We personally have our bard do it as the other jobs have other things to worry about and can't necessarily move across the arena. The bard, who won't lose the dps, instead is supposed to do the work so that the other dps and healers can stay put and do their thing.
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    Nozomi Harasaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilianaNighthawk View Post
    Im pretty sure this is the common strat. How else would you do it, have the bard get them all? No way thats ridiculous
    I've done all the Redfires/Bluefires on both BRD and WHM. It is far from ridiculous, and is in fact quite simple once you understand all the nuances of the mechanic. It also allows other roles to focus on DPS/their own responsibilities by putting it on one person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilianaNighthawk View Post
    Im pretty sure this is the common strat. How else would you do it, have the bard get them all? No way thats ridiculous
    Having the BRD get all of them works out to higher raid DPS, as BRDs can continue to DPS on the move at range, but others cannot.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    Having the BRD get all of them works out to higher raid DPS, as BRDs can continue to DPS on the move at range, but others cannot.
    You mean your scholar can't?

    I'm pretty sure SCH doing the blue/red fire mechanics instead of BRDs results in higher raid DPS.
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    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    You mean your scholar can't?

    I'm pretty sure SCH doing the blue/red fire mechanics instead of BRDs results in higher raid DPS.
    You can do SCH as well, that works fine. I was more responding to her speaking about having their members all get it themselves. Having a BRD take the debuff for 2-3 seconds is much less loss.
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    Sid Figaro
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    I agree with Lili...that's a lot of responsibility for just one person. If that person dies then it's over Johnny. Seems legit to have everyone including the main tank help with Blue/Red fire.
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    Syhril Lahnia
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    I've done it both ways, i've had us run all of our own; it worked fine. Our current strat has the Scholar doing all the running and it's even better. At least it lets me stay on Phoenix the whole time :P (Our Bard does the running for the passing mechanic)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traison View Post
    ...Our current strat has the Scholar doing all the running and it's even better. At least it lets me stay on Phoenix the whole time :P (Our Bard does the running for the passing mechanic)
    We have whichever healer who feels like doing it do the passing mechanic! He didn't want to do the passing mechanic because he's used to the SCH from his other group doing it.

    Seems like T12 is like T8 where you get together in PF and discover that there are a lot of different ways people did things.
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