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    Purrfectstorm's Avatar
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    Purrfect Storm
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    Dragoon Lv 90

    I finally did it... disabled tells with busy status. RMT unbearably bad.

    Just as the title says, I finally had to set my status to busy to block out the endless tell-spam from gilsellers. This sucks as I can't see ready checks, can't get tells from people wanting to join my FC, or get tells for any other reason. I play this game a lot, like a lot, a lot. And I can say with 100% certainty that RMT spam has not gotten any better. In fact, it's gotten several magnitudes worse. I think something has to be done about it and like yesterday. I have some suggestions. I know they're not new ideas but I was hoping if any of these get enough support, SE might do a bit more than they're currently doing.

    1) Give us a click to report option.
    2) Don't allow the sending of tells until someone is at least X level (probably 15 or so)
    3) Let us blacklist more people.
    4) Give us a quick option to clear our blacklists.
    5) Give us more settings about what tells we'd like to block (tells from strangers, tells from people not on friend list, not in FC, not in LS, etc.)
    6) Don't allow the sending of many tells within short time frames.

    Of these, I think 1-4 are the weakest but at least they'd be something. I believe 5 and 6 would be particularly helpful. I still couldn't get tells from people wanting to join my FC, asking me questions about PF groups I have up, etc. But at least it's not as heavy handed as shutting out tells completely.

    Whatever the route SE takes, I think it's obvious that something more has to be done.

    - A frustrated player
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    Mission's Avatar
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    Mission Lifebinder
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    I turned off tells long ago..now if only I could block random friend requests
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    I played EVE online for a few years. One of the best features for dealing with RMT:

    Right click, report RMT. Removes all messages of that player from your chat log and you don't see any more messages from them, but the block is separate from the blacklist so it doesn't fill that up either.

    Can we get something like this in XIV?
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    Aishwarya Vaishnavi
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I played EVE online for a few years. One of the best features for dealing with RMT:

    Right click, report RMT. Removes all messages of that player from your chat log and you don't see any more messages from them, but the block is separate from the blacklist so it doesn't fill that up either.

    Can we get something like this in XIV?
    I wish we could do it like that. They want us to report it but for something as common as rmt, right click report should be the best option. Let it fill out the needed info for us, to include the message sent, and then clear it from the log, this would make so many people happy
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    Elusana_Celah's Avatar
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    N'ico Yazawa
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    I simply love getting 2 tells in a row. I also love how they are trying to be clever with their wording using stupid as **** catch phrases like "love begets love" in order to get our attention and keep it in our 'memory' so we always remember what they are saying to us. It's advertising 101. But when I remember their catch phrases I only get irritated and want them to p*** off. Yeah I'm getting BEYOND tired of them. I have had to go without /busy for awhile because I need the tells to talk to people currently cuz I'm trying to network for end-gamers.
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    StouterTaru's Avatar
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    Stouter Taru
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    Busy status goes away too easily, I'm pretty sure changing zones takes it off.

    I just have tells filtered out in chat log.
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    Ambrose Rex
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I recently learned of this "Busy" thing, but I agree! I honestly don't remember any other game I've played ever having this much of an issue with RMT, though PSU (NA-PC/PS2) was hackers galore, which obliterated its economy. Fortunately, FFXIV has a comparably more stable economy, but the chat system needs work. My non-FC friends like to send me tells, so going busy is not an option for me.
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    Whiston Aglaeca
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    Cactuar
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    Carpenter Lv 60
    Back around 2.2 or so, one of the patch notes specifically stated they changed the amount of tells a character can send in a period of time. I tested this out recently, and I literally can't chain tell someone fast enough to get an error. I don't think 3-5 seconds forced delay is unreasonable, an die something they should look back into again.
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    OlyverW's Avatar
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    Oly'ver White
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    The tells have been getting personal too I had one over the weekend address me by character name. I also have been having to go busy most of the time and I am seeing more and more people doing the same in the open world :/
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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    1) Give us a click to report option.
    Yes, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    2) Don't allow the sending of tells until someone is at least X level (probably 15 or so)
    No, this encroaches on real players who won't even know why they can't send tells. The trial already limits tells as well and that would be the primary culprit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    3) Let us blacklist more people.
    If your list is full I guarantee you can delete the first 190 right now and you won't hear from a single one of them. The spam accounts are only used for a few days before they are baned or abandoned. Your list is full of people that don't exist anymore. Flush it out. I have at most 5 people on mine right now because I go through every few weeks and flush out the list. No ill effects at all. Been doing this for over a year now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    4) Give us a quick option to clear our blacklists.
    Definitely fair. Although once you learn to maintain the list more effectively it becomes a non-issue. Lots of people just let the list hit 200 people when it was unnecessary to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    5) Give us more settings about what tells we'd like to block (tells from strangers, tells from people not on friend list, not in FC, not in LS, etc.)
    My only problem with this is it will have a "set it and forget it" mindset. Suddenly you aren't receiving legit tells but you won't even know because you set the settings months ago. Square already has a filter in place to prevent RMT tells. That's why they are so cryptic looking these days. They are trying to get past that filter. Any filter on your end wouldn't target RMT so much as you would be blacklisting entire swaths of innocent people. It's still pretty heavy handed and even you yourself said it wasn't a real fix for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    6) Don't allow the sending of many tells within short time frames.
    If I remember correctly they already do this.

    Honestly clear your blacklist so you can add the new people to it. You really don't need someone on the list after a few days. They are just taking up space on your list now and preventing you from using the intended tool to handle these issues. Square will never ever ever be perfect at stoping RMT. No MMO is. The best you can do is manage your blacklist better.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 02-10-2015 at 02:21 AM.

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