Allagan Empire

[Sapphic]

Where are the descendants?

Or who are the descendants?

An Empire is a vast entity, spread over a huge distance. The events which caused the Crystal Tower to sink couldn't have been enough to annihilate teh whole race. Yes, drive it to a point that it collapsed but their still would be survivors from outside the devestation of CT.

Strange theory, possibly, could Garleans be direct descendents of Allags? Allags where initiators of MAgiteck technology which has been further utilised by the Garleans. Does that imply, just like pure blooded Garleans that Pure Allags could not directly utilize magic? Thus the reliance on Magiteck.

Counter to that is the red eyes of the Allagans and the third eye of the Garleans.

So questions:

What happened to the Allagan survivors?
Who and where are their descendents?
Are Garleans somehow linked?
And how did the develop a third eye?

Just doesnt sit well that the Crystal Events could have wiped out a whole specific population without wiping out other races and everything in between also. Also the events seemed to be more localized than global surrounding CT. I need to go over and analyse teh CT cutscenes again for any missed hints XD

[myahele]

A formerly popular theory is the those gigas (?) all over mor dhona were allagans or at the very least slaves, due to their obsession with the crystal tower; especially since tower has been part of their lore even before it came up recently

[VargasVermillion]

Well we only know of one garlean who apparently is descendant from allag and that was nael van darnus but that doesn't mean other garleans are.
We know nothing about the third eye except they seem to be able to see through them to some extent (with technology or not is unknown) as the helmets that the trbuni, legates and centurions wear have camera looking things where their third eye would be.

It's possible that everyone has some allagan roots if you go back far enough. We'll probably get more info on it eventually.

[Toranja]

They fled into space and we are going to have a Star Ocean's like expansion.

[Kotemon]

Apart from the Leve "Who writes History". There's not much other than what the gigas says during combat about being a decendant from allagans and using the tower to go to the heavens or something. The other lore gave no evidence to support his claim other than the gigas thnik the tower is a holy relic.

[FJerome]

I think right now we can just blame Amon for everything. Gigas? Descendants of Amon's experiments in making everyone including himself 50 feet tall. Garleans? Descendants of Amon's experiments in giving people three eyes 'cause he was bored that day.

[Zohar_Lahar]

Those floating continents in the expansion might have remnants of a post-earthquake Allagan civilization.

[PArcher]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the red eyes only a trait of Allagan royalty, not the common people?

And wasn't Nael an Elezen male? Only Bahamut's reincarnation of him was Garlean (and female...)

[Nalien]

The Crystal Tower storyline tells us that there were indeed survivors, G'raha Tia being the last descendant of royal blood;

You see, not all the world perished in Xande's calamity. Survivors stood amidst the ruins of Allag, looking to the Crystal Tower. But it was nowhere to be seen.

Yet they hoped its spires would again dominate the land, and prayed that the Crystal Tower would be a beacon of hope to people everywhere.

Word of this soon reached the only member of Allag's royalty to outlive the empire: the princess Salina.

Salina was moved by the people's dearest wish. She used the very best of Allag's technology to give her blood and memories to he whom she trusted most. That man was my forebearer.

For millennia, we waited. Allag's art and ingenuity faded. Our royal blood grew thin. But before the last drop could vanish from the realm, the memory of all this returned to me.

Rather than being wiped out it seems more like their races identity just slowly died out following the Calamity without their empire holding them together.

I'm honestly more interested in their society. All we've seen so far is basically their military might, which was mostly built around subduing Primals and conquering the world. Dialog suggests they had a civil war on their hands as well, with Allagan Warriors of Light being what actually caused Xandes to dump all of Dalamuds power onto Crystal Tower in an attempt to quicken his goals, but what instead caused the Calamity. They had royalty, I believe princess Salina was described as opposing Xandes and Amons world domination.

Silly theory ahead;

Given their technological prowess they seem like a secular society, and you certainly can't spot a single Twelve related symbol in any of their structures (I thought the statues surrounding the battle field for Phlegethon might have been something, but there weren't enough of them for them to be the Twelve), however the Boarderland Ruins does have a Sun Temple, which given how Crystal Tower powered their empire (before Dalamud) isn't too surprising, but oddly there isn't a single allusion to Azeyma (unless I missed it), it's also located close to a Markets and Manor, which suggests its a civilian area. This leads me to believe they either out right did not care for the Twelve (which given the possible similarities to Primals makes sense), or the Twelve simply did not exist at the time. However, we do have a collection of Allagan Runestones dotted about in various Levequests, featuring the symbols of the Twelve. These are however, very basic even by modern standards, we farm Allagan Tomestones frequently which seem much more complex, but these are literally just carved stones. This suggests to me that they either originate early in the Allagan Empire, or after its fall. I'm going with the later because of the Allagan Runestone - Menphina; it features the twin moon (Dalamud) on it, something they put there in the twilight of their reign... Now, to me this strongly suggests that, following Xandes Calamity, the survivors created the Twelve mythology. Could they have simply have cast aside the Twelve long ago and the Calamity renewed that faith? Maybe, but if that were the case I'd expect the Allagan Sun Temple to still have some allusion to Azeyma, and it doesn't.

Now, my crazy theory is this; The Twelve are/were notable Allagan survivors. I always found it odd that the Twelve have relationships, for example Rhalgr is described as being father to both Byregot and Halone, yet their mother is not mentioned. Right off the bat that kind of lore makes the Twelve seem less divine and more mundane, and if the Twelve were Allagan survivors, you can explain the absence of various mothers/fathers; They didn't survive the Calamity. The Twelve who survived the Calamity and started leading survivors through the Umbral Era became legendary amongst the survivors, eventually resulting in them being near worshiped by descendants to the point where whole city-states do end up worshiping them as patron deities, in much the same way that we can perhaps view Bahamut as having once existed.

[Magis]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the red eyes only a trait of Allagan royalty, not the common people?

And wasn't Nael an Elezen male? Only Bahamut's reincarnation of him was Garlean (and female...)

He was Garlean on part due to his bloodline's history (I forgot the details).