Do you guys find crafting fun?

[Nashred]

I used to before I reached 3 stars. Now I don't anymore because every piece of vanity is walled behind rare drops and demimaterias and the requirements for Lucis tools are too much to even try to bother (especially since I have to do it for all classes), and that's not even counting RNG. I started crafting to make my own glamour, but it's clearly not an option since I have to shell a lot of money on the MB anyway to buy the map drops required for the good looking stuff. The time, money and effort put into making a freaking pj is not worth it. Might as well buy it from the MB.

I agree on demateria, it is a joke and too many recipes are gated behind demateria. But the lucis does not bother me, It is mostly grind. You get one item through levy quests, one item from gathering and the rest GC seals or dungeons and maps.
Supra is the joke in my opinion. It is just about money and not crafting, you dont have to HQ for them. Is about buying demateria if you dont have Desyth high enough.

I still love crafting but demateria has taken it down a notch. RNG is another thing that is too off that I mentioned in a previous post.

[Moqi]

I agree on demateria, it is a joke and too many recipes are gated behind demateria. But the lucis does not bother me, It is mostly grind. You get one item through levy quests, one item from gathering and the rest GC seals or dungeons and maps.
Supra is the joke in my opinion. It is just about money and not crafting, you dont have to HQ for them. Is about buying demateria if you dont have Desyth high enough.

I still love crafting but demateria has taken it down a notch. RNG is another thing that is too off that I mentioned in a previous post.

I actually stopped at Supra because no way i am spending all that time/money for mastercraft demimaterias. But I still think the amount of Moonstone is way too high, even in terms of seals, if I were to get all tools. It's nothing but a time sink. I wish we had to prove we are good at crafting by mastering a couple of difficult recipies (that don't requrie the same freaking rotation for every class and a bunch of sub-recipies to make the mats) instead of spamming dungeons for turn ins and seals.


That's not even counting the fact that crafting after 50 has no storyline/cutscenes, which was one of the things I loved the most about it. The Weaver's quests are still my favourite amongst all classes. Now there is 0 effort put into that, it's just pure grind with no context to it.

[Gillionaire]

I think that's because you're now an artisan, you don't need to report to the guild master or be taught a lesson from them. You are among the best of the best (along the storylines anyway)
Maybe in the expansion, Talan and Gerolt will have more storyline for crafters to cover. I personally don't miss it, it's very time consuming running from place to place just to turn in quests.

[Nashred]

I actually stopped at Supra because no way i am spending all that time/money for mastercraft demimaterias. But I still think the amount of Moonstone is way too high, even in terms of seals, if I were to get all tools. It's nothing but a time sink. I wish we had to prove we are good at crafting by mastering a couple of difficult recipies (that don't requrie the same freaking rotation for every class and a bunch of sub-recipies to make the mats) instead of spamming dungeons for turn ins and seals.


That's not even counting the fact that crafting after 50 has no storyline/cutscenes, which was one of the things I loved the most about it. The Weaver's quests are still my favourite amongst all classes. Now there is 0 effort put into that, it's just pure grind with no context to it.

I hear yea. My guess like everything else in this game moonstone prices will eventually come down or be easier to get. But yea they are not cheap and it does cause crafters to do stuff they may not want to do like fates and dungeons. But you can craft stuff to turn in for GC seals. I do see your point and it is a valid one.

[Gillionaire]

I hear yea. My guess like everything else in this game moonstone prices will eventually come down or be easier to get. But yea they are not cheap and it does cause crafters to do stuff they may not want to do like fates and dungeons. But you can craft stuff to turn in for GC seals. I do see your point and it is a valid one.

Well, I admit that supra is not about the challenge and a minor annoyance at best..

But if you're gonna gear up your crafter with artisan's gear and artisan off hands, why is buying 3 mcDs such a problem for you? You're already spending 10mil+ on gear, it's just another 1m on top of that..

If you're a crafter, you need also be a merchant. That may not be your cup of tea, but that's just how it synergizes. Get craftin, make some money, and scoff at mcD prices

[Gillionaire]

I'm sure most crafters who say that crafting makes money actually HAVE money.. I don't doubt that at all.
Many crafters I know that are 4 stars have 10 million + and some even 100 million +

That said, in the time you spent to craft, you could probably just go out spiritbonding full time and make just as much, if not more.

Why do I craft? Convenience, I don't like to rely on other people to be logged on / search for a crafter to do what I need done.. AND it saves money. Although the second part's a moot point since I'm just saving money on crafting gear by making my own. I feel like high tier market board (1m+) items are just money being traded between crafters..

[RiceisNice]

I'm sure most crafters who say that crafting makes money actually HAVE money.. I don't doubt that at all.
Many crafters I know that are 4 stars have 10 million + and some even 100 million +

That said, in the time you spent to craft, you could probably just go out spiritbonding full time and make just as much, if not more.

Why do I craft? Convenience, I don't like to rely on other people to be logged on / search for a crafter to do what I need done.. AND it saves money. Although the second part's a moot point since I'm just saving money on crafting gear by making my own. I feel like high tier market board (1m+) items are just money being traded between crafters..

You need to play your cards right. I invested probably about 6mil in total getting supras for all my crafts, and I sell 3-4 star crafting services (specifically foragers, artisans and platinum accessories) for around 700k-800k each, with them providing the mats. There's also the convenience factor of being able to craft for your FC

[Sibyll]

You need to play your cards right. I invested probably about 6mil in total getting supras for all my crafts, and I sell 3-4 star crafting services (specifically foragers, artisans and platinum accessories) for around 700k-800k each, with them providing the mats. There's also the convenience factor of being able to craft for your FC

I still think I've made more money (and funded 4*/supras entirely) through selling Mastercraft Demis (Desynth) and Tier IV materia (SBing). This stuff just sells so much faster and has a higher demand than 4*. The window for viability on most of the armor is within the first few weeks of release before it dies to a halt.

Also, people paying 700k and they provide the mats? People complain about 400k being too much on my server.

[Gillionaire]

I still think I've made more money (and funded 4*/supras entirely) through selling Mastercraft Demis (Desynth) and Tier IV materia (SBing). This stuff just sells so much faster and has a higher demand than 4*. The window for viability on most of the armor is within the first few weeks of release before it dies to a halt.

Also, people paying 700k and they provide the mats? People complain about 400k being too much on my server.

I agree, I am 4 star crafter in 4, 3 stars in the rest. I think I still saved enough money to at least break even by making my own off hands and artisan gear. But that's about all I'm willing to do with it.
If my friends ask, I'll craft them an item free of fee of course. But that's all the purpose it'll serve me. I don't want to sit in cities and advertise for hours on end to find a single customer with RNG based results that the other party has no control over, too many ways it could go wrong. (Hell, I could even just craft a darksteel nugget and do a bunch of quality actions and say, hey. I'm out of durability, CS2 won't complete this rotation, Rapid Synthesis will.. do you want me to just reclaim or rapid synth? and I could just fail the craft and say whoops, I failed!) and keep the mats.. of course that's a scam, but you know what I mean. The other party will never know for 100% what your intention was..

Having said that, I find it easier to make my money just processing raw materials into refined mats (nuggets, ingots, etc.)
That way, I can sell at a bulk a lot faster. Not have to worry about undercutting etc. etc.

[Wintersandman]

Crafting was mundane until I learned to HQ. Then once you learn how to properly HQ you want to HQ everything. It is like an addiction. I try to HQ furniture and other items that can't be HQ. I was making someone's relic weapon and I still wanted to HQ it, even though it would be destroyed by that jerk Gerolt.