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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Naelle View Post
    Our black mage is currently 29 int 1 piety for the extra fire cast per rotation. Not 100% useless. :/
    So basically it's like 30 little materia slots on the job stone that accepts +1 stat point micro-materia. :3
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Naelle View Post
    Our black mage is currently 29 int 1 piety for the extra fire cast per rotation. Not 100% useless. :/
    is this a thing? if so i gotta try it on my blm
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    is this a thing? if so i gotta try it on my blm
    Essentially it's to get your PIE to a level that provides enough mana to get an extra Fire I in your rotation before needing to Transpose. This means how much PIE you need depends on your character race, gear and party composition. With how easy it is now to reset physical bonus points, it's more convenient to make up the "missing" PIE this way.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Seattle Sounders
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    Phoenix
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    (ie. many Monks go into the game thinking Dexterity would be their primary attribute)

    This can easily be fixed now with 240 GC seals
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    2.) Make your Bonus Points universal, thus requiring a bit more personal investment into where those stats are allocated. That said, allow players to either spend Gil to reset their Attributes, or gain a free attribute-reset once each month. That way, you never have to worry about "permanently screwing your character up, and needing to create a new character in their place", but at the same time, adding a bit of *real* choice in there.
    you mean the thing already existing in game right now?
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    The OP clearly doesn't play BLM or knows how BLM works.
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    The OP clearly doesn't play BLM or knows how BLM works.
    Or know how any other job works. The bonus points give a fantastic boost to the jobs you play. As WHM I needed to take so many points out of MND cause WHM and full MND is aggro-central, I currently love being able to boost my PIE. Why would I want universal attribute points? That would be the most useless thing in the whole game, there would be no swapping jobs because you wouldn't be able to take damage as a tank if your main is a healer or dps!
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    Kelg Granthal
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    As a tank main I say it's not useless. 99% of the time im 30 STR.
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    Gyson Kincaid
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    I'll answer that:

    No. No they are not.

    The reason is simple; each and every Job has a "best stat", and the only real competition is between the Scholar and Summoner. Thus, there is no real choice, because the "choice" is simply "Do I want to purposely hinder my character".
    Mentioned this elsewhere, but that completely depends on whether or not the content is designed around the requirement of min-maxing your character build, or whether it's just something the players have erroneously convinced themselves of being necessary (when it isn't).

    If you can defeat all the content in this game with a reasonably chosen stat placement (rather than dumping every point in a single stat) then the system is working fine, and it's the players who are needlessly throwing flexibility away.
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    Jei Sumnter
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 60
    I would like to counter the OP with the proposal that ALL stats points be 'allocatable' up to some max limit per level. That would offer up some interesting customization options.

    Though Square would never do it because it would require effort to keep things balanced and Square has either the smallest or the laziest Dev team I have ever seen in an MMO.
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