Question on BRD

[Duskmourne]

I'm just now getting back into ffxiv since quitting shortly after twintania as a paladin. I decided to just start from scratch since i do not remember much and have no gil. I'm looking at rolling dps this time and was looking at BRDS.
Are they still as OP as they were back then or have things changed quite a bit? It seems monks are great but I was looking at either brd, nin, drg or tanking again to switch to drk when it comes out. Thx!

[Clarkamite]

They are not as OP as they once were. They still have a secure spot in raid scenarios at the moment but they are certainly not OP. Many people might say they are a little bit underwhelming compared to other jobs but they certainly have a spot in raid groups.

As far as what to roll it would really just have to depend on whatever you're most comfortable with. Pick the job you find the most fun and go from there. Heavensward isn't too far away so all of this really could change a ton when that drops. Play whatever you'll have the most fun with for now.

[DoubleD]

I'm just now getting back into ffxiv since quitting shortly after twintania as a paladin. I decided to just start from scratch since i do not remember much and have no gil. I'm looking at rolling dps this time and was looking at BRDS.
Are they still as OP as they were back then or have things changed quite a bit? It seems monks are great but I was looking at either brd, nin, drg or tanking again to switch to drk when it comes out. Thx!

Things have changed quite a bit with the 2.1 nerf, and WD scaling discrepancy for bard have rendered them pretty weak, even when considering the "support" aspect they bring. The tradeoff for DPS vs Support skills for bard is very unbalanced compared to other DPS jobs which also have kickass support skills.

I'd say bards will be around until the first part of 3.0 but if the WD nerfing continues, bard won't be around for long so it might be a good idea to try out a different class.

[Empty-handed]

Bard is not op. they are needed for the songs utility. and having the mobility option while maintaining 100% dps uptime. so mechanics that require heavy mobility and movement is mostly given to us.

i would imagine every group that is still progressing through coil will definitely need a bard.

the negative thing about the job. there are MAAAANY bards out there (because its easy to pick up job! and its also fun so much freedom). if a static is looking for a bard. that spot is probably already taken by another bard.

this is coming from someone who runs in a 2bards dps setup

[Ooshima]

Bard is not op. they are needed for the songs utility. and having the mobility option while maintaining 100% dps uptime. so mechanics that require heavy mobility and movement is mostly given to us.

i would imagine every group that is still progressing through coil will definitely need a bard.

the negative thing about the job. there are MAAAANY bards out there (because its easy to pick up job! and its also fun so much freedom). if a static is looking for a bard. that spot is probably already taken by another bard.

this is coming from someone who runs in a 2bards dps setup

2 BRDs is so 2.0 lol, why is your group still doing that? D:

[Empty-handed]

This is how we started lol. And we kept it going I guess. Lol there is no specific reason.

Our team was actually monk, drg, 2 bards when we first raided scob. Lots of people said. Your team won't meet t8 dps check. Your team doesn't have caster lb how you will down t9... Loll lol. Yet we met t8 requirement and downed t9. Lol that was fun.

Now in fcob our monk switched to blm.

we bards try to keep foe up for him all the time if possible lol. With 4x bv per encounter. (the first 2 foes are back to back and are running with bv)

and we as bards benefit from having a drg ^^

[Trixxy]

You can be op and hit the top of dps charts if you know how to play videogames, but you're most likely just gonna get enslaved to your mighty BLM overlords and WHM sirs.

[Werhusky]

This is how we started lol. And we kept it going I guess. Lol there is no specific reason.

Our team was actually monk, drg, 2 bards when we first raided scob. Lots of people said. Your team won't meet t8 dps check. Your team doesn't have caster lb how you will down t9... Loll lol. Yet we met t8 requirement and downed t9. Lol that was fun.

Now in fcob our monk switched to blm.

we bards try to keep foe up for him all the time if possible lol. With 4x bv per encounter. (the first 2 foes are back to back and are running with bv)

and we as bards benefit from having a drg ^^

I know that feel our static as well is 2 BRD, Mnk, DRG and for T9 as we did solotank was 2 BRD, 2 DRG, MNK. ppl always say you need a caster but never understood why... even did T5 on 1Tank, 6 Sch and 1 Drg or a 1 Tank, 6 melee and 1 healer setup (if ppl wouldnt have fucked up twisters i had put vids up XD). In general game is designed that you can do any content in almost any setup.

Though bout the bard dps... well for our team we have monk>bard>drg>bard on dmg output. Its a matter of gearsetup (the higher bard goes crit > anything else > skillspeed) and skill i guess.

[Trixxy]

You can be op and hit the top of dps charts if you know how to play videogames, but you're most likely just gonna get enslaved to your mighty BLM overlords and WHM sirs.

[Duskmourne]

Yeah from what I've seen, there are tons of BRDS.... I'll probaly roll ninja, they look pretty fun and appear to do solid dps while bringing some utility.
I knew things had changed, but I thought i would ask. I just remember rolling two BRDS cause of their damage and songs. Thx!