Housing - Inactive Plot Clearing

[Spawnie]

@ kael no not at all once u buy n build your house it should be urs forever no matter how active or not u are.. simply put its purely SE responsibility to keep up with supply n demand they make more then enough money with monthly fees + vanity cash shop to add more zones once in a while why should the older players lose what they worked hard for just cause the newer players think they are more entitled to it then less active players are?? do you lose ur house/flat in real life if u continue to pay rent/land rates but not stay there?? no u dont so why should pixels be any different?? we pay for it so its ours not our fault newer players or those who made money slower miss out

[Bluevann]

do you lose ur house/flat in real life if u continue to pay rent/land rates but not stay there?? no u dont so why should pixels be any different?? we pay for it so its ours not our fault newer players or those who made money slower miss out

But if you're unsubscribed, you are not "paying rent". Also, some countries (including mine) allow people to claim ownership of abandoned houses if they can fix them up and make them become living places again (a building requires certain electricity circuits and plumbing systems before it can be legally labeled as a living place again). It's how we fix the issue of abandoned houses in the countryside, and at the same time, of the homeless.

You can put it in every way you want, but the truth is that SE does not have the system to give a home to everyone (only 2% of the population can, as of now), and people who bought a house did not work any harder than those who made the money for it but have no plots left to buy. The only difference is that someone got them first and the other didn't. If you are not paying for the game, what rights do you have over someone who instead is paying the subscription, made the gil for a house, and is waiting for available plots? None. You lose your rights of claiming anything in the game the moment you stop paying for it. It's in the terms of service and it should be reflected in the housing system too.

[Spawnie]

lol making money now is extremely easy compared to what it used to be can make millions now on a daily basis with just a couple hours work as ive stated b4 even when i cant log in for extended periods i STILL continue to pay my sub to support the game i love so yeah housing is vastly popular in any game u play SE should of known n catered for that when planned housing to begin with, not just say o we have met player demands for housing around a year after release of thier game n leave it at that = =

and it might be that way where u live but isnt for where i live i go over seas for months at a time due to work a no1 even enters my house for that period yet no1 takes me house away from me :P

[ladyJ]

i think 65 days would be plenty of inactivity timer personally ... 30 days someones sub might have slipped but after 60+ days chances are slim they are returning and the land / housing plot should be utilized by people who are activly playing the game.. go ahead and flame but lots of dead fcs and inactive players with used up plots..

[Deviant1]

i think that once you buy the land, it should be yours until you sell it. this reclaim system is just a band aid to the fact that SE didn't create enough housing.

8 wards times 60 lots is only 480 houses for the entire server, that is a poorly designed system. Seriously, how do you design a housing system for a game that has this many players in such a pathetic manner...

Instead of trying to take away a house that someone already paid 5+mil on, which they wont get back, se should just put in more houses already.

[raelgun]

Yes, as a lot of people pointed out in the Balmung Housing Issue thread, people who aren't paying for their subscription shouldn't have claim over a limited content such as housing.

Just to say, what problems persist on Balmung should not equate to new rules being subjected to other servers, dont like the housing situation, server change option is there. No mmo has made this drastic change before other then open up server transfers for free just because 1 or an extreme few servers have this level of problem.

[Jacost]

So basically...

People who have houses: My house, precccccciousssss...

People who don't have houses: I wants it, precccccciousssss...

Obvious solution: Toss all the housing wards into Mount Doom.

[mbncd]

[Snip] [T]hey should make an alternate housing zone that is purely an instance of an individual house for all players to have access to. It wouldn't matter that way if people can't log on for a while then and will do away with this nonsense of the neighborhood limitations.

I've always been an advocate of the personal instanced housing solution, even if it was a cheaper version with less functionality (like an apartment, more than an inn room but less than a small house, maybe allows pot plants for gardening).

With instanced housing, after a couple of weeks of inactivity, the house could be archived. To get it back you'd have to go and talk to an NPC and maybe wait 24 Earth hours but that'd be about it. You'd still have your place and everything within, but while it wasn't being used it would place almost 0 strain on the running services of the game. It also wouldn't be persistent when you weren't there so that'd be a big boon too.

Why they insisted on such a rigid system as neighbourhoods for everything other than inn rooms and personal rooms is beyond me...

[Fyce]

- People without active subscription should lose their personnal plot 3 months after the end of the subscription. Automatic emails should be sent to remaind these people that they're about to lose their plot and everything on it.
This is to allow new plot to be available for active players while getting rid of someone who doesn't pay and pay their sub anymore. The 3 months are enough for someone to get back in the game for a new big patch (for example). If they don't come back, the plot should be considered abandonned.

- FC plot should be lost after 3 months of complete inactivity within the FC. Even if some people within the FC are still subbed, if nobody shows up on the character in that FC, the plot will be lost.
This will prevent "ghost FCs" from holding a plot while nobody plays on that server anymore. All it takes is only one connection within 3 months from anyone in a FC owning a plot.

- In case of a FC or a single player wants to get rid of his plot, a system should be put in place allowing them to sell it back and get some gils. The price would be set to the current market prices and would decrease according to the time it remains unsold, like a regular plot.
This would allow someone in need of gils to be able to give back their plot without losing too much money in the process. That system would cover a great number of cases such as server transfer or an FC which wants to buy a bigger plot, etc.

- If a plot remains without any house built on it, the player/FC should lose that plot within a month after the plot being bought. Because don't buy something valuable like that in front of the entire server and don't use it for anything, jerk.

[Ilitsa]

IMHO, taking away someone's plot of land that has no house on it isn't a whole lot better than taking away a plot of land with a house on it, as the plot itself is very expensive.

I would be okay with something like this only if a player that got "evicted" due to inactivity was given some sort of voucher(s) so when/if they returned they could re-obtain what they had lost. Housing is very pricey, and I don't think anyone should lose that much gil just because they hasn't played for awhile.

Otherwise, it is kind of like saying that only people who will never take an extended break from the game should be able to have a house, y'know?

That's exactly how it should be imo. If you're willing to not sub and play for 3+ months at a time, why should you be entitled to keep something that someone who DOES pay and play could use daily? With how limited (and yes, housing is still extremely limited) it is, it should absolutely be buyer beware. I can agree though to he voucher idea, at least for a one time thing "You lost your house due to inactivity, here's a voucher to claim a plot of equal or lesser size that's unused. If you get your property reclaimed again within the year, you will not receive another voucher though" That way, even if it's set to reclaim every 6 months, that'd be a huge chance to come and play and keep your land.