Kosmos. You won't make any headway telling people why their opinions are wrong. Their opinions are perfectly valid which serve as counterpoints to your own, and it is clearly a viewpoint shared by many people. The solution isn't to tell them why they are wrong because they aren't. Their opinion, viewpoint, and play styles are just as valid as your own. The solution is to understand their point of view and come up with an answer that works for both sides. Consistently telling people they are wrong and failing to understand them will never get you anywhere. A few pages ago I thought you understood this but I still see you arguing opinions more than searching for solutions.