Level 50 Dungeon Level Syncs

[Eye_Gore]

Almost everyone here watches other people play. Hence the whole "watch the video first or get out scrub!" mentality.

You pretty much always solo tank. But no, I grab these magical things called "friends" or join fate parties. I either pull as much as I can and practice my tanking rotation, holding aggro. Or I have people not dodge aoes and grab big pulls to practice my healing. So far, I've never gotten a complaint and always get complimented on my tanking/healing skills.

I must have missed in the start of the game to make all the magical friends you can right away and go practice your role with them at FATES before entering your first dungeon so you know exactly what to do in there, but wait you won't need to do anything just sit back and relax. Was that Momodi that told me this at the start?

[allecs]

I must have missed in the start of the game to make all the magical friends you can right away and go practice your role with them at FATES before entering your first dungeon so you know exactly what to do in there, but wait you won't need to do anything just sit back and relax. Was that Momodi that told me this at the start?

Learning your role is different than learning a dungeon. You can always learn a dungeon regardless of it you're actually doing something or not. Again, which is why people scream go watch a video. That's not you playing, that's not you even in the dungeon or in the game.

With an attitude like that, I can see how you missed making friends lol.

[scarebearz]

Make a pre-made party that agree's to all use low ilvl gear if you want a challanage.

Many of us are bored to death of being forced into old content, yet you and SE want it to drag out even longer... lol

[Eye_Gore]

.With an attitude like that, I can see how you missed making friends lol.

Like speaking to a 6 year old that just keeps asking, why after everything you say.lol

[allecs]

Like speaking to a 6 year old that just keeps asking, why after everything you say.lol

Lol so by poking holes in your logic, I'm like a kid that keeps asking why?

Whatever helps you sleep at night lol.

[Alistaire]

Its not punishing you, its helping the lower players as stated many times before. Say you're doing a roulette or working on a book, or for whatever you need to do a level synch dungeon for. Say you get Sastasha you go in full ilvl120+, you could probably solo the dungeon. How would a new tank or healer be able to actually do their job? A new tank couldn't hold aggro off you and your HP wouldn't even probably move so a healer wouldn't be doing much, no learning. A caster DPS class may not even get a spell off before the mob is dead. Everyone always says that the early dungeons are for learning your role. You can't learn anything if don't actually get to play your role, leading to further complications after 50 content.

They're working hard to level up too, you were there once, give em a break. Remember there is no "I" in MMO. Don't be "That Player", oh wait.......

That's not even really true. I was much less annoyed getting badly geared players in these dungeons when they were uncapped. Now the i110 sync is back I almost never do high lvl roulette on either of my 3 characters anymore. Not that it'd be a huge hassle but the need for the i110 sync just isn't there. It's a pain they brought it back, basically "the straw that broke the camel's back" kind of analogy. I, and many others, were just barely inclined to do these as is, and the pain of helping people who don't even try to gear up @ lvl 50 was more bearable when their dps output was less needed.

And saying someone could solo the dungeon is just hyperbole. It doesn't help your point, just makes that point of view look ridiculous.

tl;dr bringing i110 sync back was the tipping point that stopped me from running these dungeons. How's that help new players?

[Firepower]

Dungeons haven't been done in proper gear since the release weeks, the 2nd teir of dungeons released in the following patch (Pharos Sirius, Copperbell, Haukke) was already overgeared on entry when the majority had obtained i90 relic weapons and myth gear.

Running WP in standard i50/55 af an i55 grand company weapon (if you are lucky to have any seals left after promoting yourself to the level) or a lesser level dungeon drop or worst case cobalt weapon and whatever level accessories you obtained from previous dungeons was the norm back then. Things like killing Tonberry king before getting killed by the stalkers (requiring LB2 too) Not to mention of even entering AK and trying to beat the DPS race of demon wall.

Pharos Sirius was tuned well for the i90's but people by that stage had defaulted to speedrun and overpower the boss tactics from running WP and AK millions of times. So most people just bailed out of that dungeon instead of even attempting to run it.

I'm not sure what the reason for the level sync was in the first place as i110 seems too high to make any of the dungeons any more difficult than if you was i130 so in my opinion it seems pointless. If they were to add extra more stringent Ilevel rules to earlier dungeons the rewards would have to be scaled accordingly simply because you will end up with the old pharos Sirius problem of nobody ever running the dungeons to help people that need to do it since its a difficult task for almost no reward. Bear in mind that dungeons done at minimum or average ilevels cannot in any instance be speedrun and even pulling more than one set of mobs could be dangerous it could easily lead to doubling the time of the dungeon.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

tl;dr bringing i110 sync back was the tipping point that stopped me from running these dungeons. How's that help new players?

On the flip side. bringing back ilevel sync is what keeps me running these dungeons. So there's that.

[Alistaire]

On the flip side. bringing back ilevel sync is what keeps me running these dungeons. So there's that.

Pretty sure that's less common since that doesn't really make sense at all.

[Mykll]

no one has complained about an over geared high level one shotting things in a dungeon....ever.

Me. Constantly in WoW. I HATED leveling up, and someone brings their max level buddy and say "Don't attack or get any agro I'm pulling the entire dungeon to the end and AOE'ing everything down." /sigh What a boring run this is gonna be. I hated "The Plow".