Level 50 Dungeon Level Syncs

[Noxifer]

The one problem I can see with the high ilvl synch ceiling is that every now and then you're going to have a party with a fresh lvl50 tank and ilvl-synched dpses. Which is going to make aggro maintenance a chore for both parts (tank desperately trying to keep the mobs and dps tempering their frustration over having to wait with spells/hits when they hit orange markers on all mobs). Or a new healer desperately trying to keep up with the size of the pulls the 'experienced' players think they should be able to handle.

If anything, have the ilvl-synch relative to the party members. Say "synch to 10 ilvls above the average ilvl of the lowest party member at time of entrance" or something. That would fix issues of low-geared tank + high-geared dps, and would give first-runners a taste of what the dungeon was closer to the beginning.
Sure, people could troll that and put on fake gear to just about hit the ilvl requirement, and then change once inside the dungeon, but then again people can troll almost anything -- since you can change gear even to below ilvl requirement once inside, you can just switch to unglamoured event gear and go trololol through it all.

[Deathscythe343]

I really don't see the point for the ilvl sync. For the most part, it seems that people that are running these older dungeons are just doing so for things like the relic quest. If that is the only reason that he/she is doing that shouldn't they have the ability to join in full force and get it done as quick as possible?

[Raist]

A thought hit me while reading through the thread. What if they nixed the level synch on gear so it was handled like it originally was for the level capped events in FFXI? You would zone in and any gear over the level cap was taken off your character. Your stats would still get synched...but you were stripped of the gear that was over the cap (in the scope of this game, they would have to capture the level of your weapon and not let you in if it was overpowered for the instance though). We had no choice but to carry level appropriate gear or we had to run them with empty slots.

Wouldn't that create a crap-storm of complaints on the forums... hehehe.

[Symon17]

With regards to wanting a lower sync so the dungeons are more "challenging", I think it's important to keep in mind that the dungeons that sync to ilvl 110 are older dungeons that had been challenging at one point, but just aren't anymore.

I figure most players have run these into the ground, and making the sync lower wouldn't add any challenge or fun, it would just make the grind even more repetitive, where it actually plays out pretty smoothly now. The dungeons would have to be completely remade to get what you want, and at that point it's better to make new dungeons instead, which is what I think square enix realized.

[Darsho]

No, the dungeons are fine as they are. There is no further need to tamper with ilvl sync pre-expansion.

[NoahArks]

Don't think a lot of people would actually bother with the relic at all then.... Imagine you'd spend 30-40 mins on one dungeon, and it doesn't drop? that wouldl iterally be HOURS of work to get just one (while it still is atm).

[Azper]

Item level sync is what pushes me away from doing certain content, to be honest. I have no desire to gimp myself on dungeons that have no real benefit to me. If their goal is to get more people to run outdated content, this is surely not the way to do it. Remove the level sync, throw some allied seals in, and we'll talk.

[Battlewrench]

Keeping old content relevant is going to be harder and harder with the new expansion coming out. When constantly having to release content in a dungeon grinder like this it becomes hard to meet the demand. I assume that's why we have so many hard modes and recycled mobs. Keeping the old dungeons relevant for new players means giving incentive to the already geared players to replay it. Tomes is a decent way but giving less tomes to the older content means it's less likely that people run it. So with the new content around the corner will the oldest dungeons become worthless? Tomes, weeklies, and roulette?

Any before I digress any further I don't mind having the current ilevel cap. The wipe mechanics are there to an extent and people don't feel like they could solo the dungeon. Wouldn't mind it being roughly i100....

[Able]

Don't like speed-running? Here's an idea. Develop new dungeons with engaging activities between bosses. The trash-mini boss-trash-mini boss-trash-final boss corridor design is dreadfully boring at this stage. Oh, and taking the same design and putting gates in between the trash to block speed-running will just make players avoid that content altogether. It's infuriating.

[Mykll]

I hate being carried through something. Where if I was new and everyone else so over geared I feel like I am there just for token attacks, or really the other 3 (less of an issue with 8 and 24 person content, depending they can largely be completed with several missing) could just as easily finish just fine without me. I am one that likes to SEE the dungeon, explore it, experience it. As a new person today, you are not going to get that. You are going to be swiftly carried through without REALLY seeing what is going on, or know that phases are skipped, or why is that add there but ok guess we will just ignore and burn boss, what is that mechanic and how do we deal with it... Blind runs into a dungeon are my favorite. The group explores and learns and figures things out as they go. Someone new in my group? I'll at times ask them if they want to go blind or have things explained. I guess I miss game where tactics played a nice part of it, other than simply "dodge that".

I personally think the ilvl sync needs to be tighter. But, it is also not ruining my fun of the game without the sync, or with the loose sync it is now. I was afraid that this will have a few things from WoW that I hate, and unfortunately it does once you hit level 50. Things are just an AOE zerg fest, and you swiftly get carried through something. It is of course worse in WoW, where there is no level sync, and your max level buddy can pull the entire level 20 dungeon to the end and aoe everything down, to "plow" you through. To me that is no fun at all.

I am also aware different people find different things fun. Really hard to please everyone. With them allowing solo dungeon runs, or even dungeons without level sync but accessible through DF, just going to cause problems. You going to have both sides (and even the third middle ground that doesn't care one way or the other) at war with each other, just like this thread, speed running in general, and a slew of other topics.