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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    I appreciate a well thought-out post as much or perhaps more than the next person, and it's nice of you in a way to support the beleaguered party and grant benefit of the doubt, but all of that was just...a little too much. We don't need an essay to break any of this down.

    The T10 critique, taken in context of the preceding posts, was fairly reasonable. It wasn't by any means complimentary, but it was actually constructive, especially considering what tone the other party had been taking in recent posts (yes, that was apparently a misunderstanding, but not obvious at the time).
    Yeah, long posts are kind of my thing. I should at least try to lay off. But, that critique... even if we take the previous context into account, two wrongs do not make a right. That criticism was not constructive in the slightest. To provide constructive criticism requires elements of actual construction. The criticizer needs to make an attempt to put what they see as broken back together again. The broken object in this case was simply declared as broken and nothing more. It also must focus on the work at hand, not the person performing it. This was violated when the criticized was insulted by being called a liability. This was, hands down, the most caustic, belittling, and downright insulting critique of another player's strategy and person I've ever seen on these forums. So, yes, I pointed it out. When I'm impassioned, I tend to be verbose so that I can get my point across perfectly clearly; the idea of something I say being interpreted as meaning something entirely different than my intention terrifies me.

    Quote Originally Posted by firstsin View Post
    Anyways...

    Getting back on topic and agreeing you all have the biggest pixel-p***s.
    That isn't exactly what was going on, but you're otherwise correct. We got way off topic; so off topic that I'm surprised the mods didn't close the thread.

    However... let's go back to the actual question this thread asked: "Is Spell Speed viable on a WHM?". Our answer was that yes, it is viable. Any WHM build is viable as long as any Piety requirements are satisfied. The OP thanked us for the answer and then proceeded to only post once more in the thread to clarify something.

    The purpose of this thread... it ended on the sixth post. Almost everything that's happened since then has actually been off topic. Maybe we should just leave things alone now.
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    This was, hands down, the most caustic, belittling, and downright insulting critique of another player's strategy and person I've ever seen on these forums. So, yes, I pointed it out. When I'm impassioned, I tend to be verbose so that I can get my point across perfectly clearly; the idea of something I say being interpreted as meaning something entirely different than my intention terrifies me.
    I don't want to draw this out too much longer, but a couple of small things:

    1. I've seen far worse than Lyrica's response there. If you read between the lines, the corrections are actually there (e.g. do anticipate Preys, do be in time to help mitigate Charge, etc.). It wasn't nice, sugary, or of the hand-holding variety, but it also wasn't to the tone of "lol l2p nub." If it offended you, I can't speak to that; you have every right to your own opinion/interpretation.

    2. I used to type books like you do, and occasionally I still indulge, but I would gently suggest the following: being overly verbose can actually obfuscate your key points, especially in a format like this where most of us are taking quickie reads on lunch breaks or while waiting for queues. Better to risk that someone might just possibly not understand your intent than to give them so much information that they either give up reading or end up missing your point entirely.
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