Time to rethink the use of non lvl 50 dungeons

[Rizon]

I need 1 more dungeon to finish my current book for my Artemis bow. Unfortunately that dungeon is Brayflox Normal. At the moment the running time is 28 minutes. These dungeons were designed for player development to level 50. In today's Eorzea they are ill suited for high level gear and weapons progression. It is now time to rework the Relic Progression concept to meet today's players with an eye to 3.0 and beyond.

[AskaRay]

Get some friends to run it with you.
Queue up and go fishing, or watch a movie/TV episode.
Log on during the off-time for your server, wait a full three hours for a low level, and then get back to me.

Anyway there's lots of things you can do while waiting for a queue.
(Don't be like me and queue an hour for a dungeon, then forget to equip your weapon at the boss..........)

[Felis]

Get some friends to run it with you.
Queue up and go fishing, or watch a movie/TV episode.
Log on during the off-time for your server, wait a full three hours for a low level, and then get back to me.

He complain that he need 28 minutes to finish the dungeon, not that he have to wait 28 minutes to enter it

At the moment the running time is 28 minutes.

In short, he want to faceroll the low level dungeons like the high level dungeons in ilevel 110+ gear.

[Kosmos992k]

In short, he want to faceroll the low level dungeons like the high level dungeons in ilevel 110+ gear.

In which case the request boils down to "It takes too long, make an easy button so I can just be given the stuff I want."

Why do people PLAY this game if they don't actually want to PLAY the game and simply wish to faceroll content that they deem to be too time consuming for their importance...

SE has talked from time to time about allowing players to run content without level cap. If that day comes, it will be a sad day indeed.

Indeed. Perhaps we should have a decent ilvl sync on the lvl 50 dungeons and content so that people cannot faceroll any of it?

I'm dead serious, not joking at all. I don't like the speed run mentality that places the value of one player's time ahead of the value of others playing and enjoying the game. The lack of ilvl sync on lvl 50 content has bred a state of mind among players who believe that everything should be speed run because, you know...they are too impatient/important to 'waste' their time actually running the content.

I know that the immediate reply will be to complain that the Zodiak line requires re-running all this content that they have run 100s of times. So what? It was a choice the player made because they had to grind out the Zodiak stages as quickly as possible. Game content should not be adjusted to allow it to be facerolled to save impatient people from actually playing it.

[Mimi91]

premade with your friend, speed run it, finish in less than 15 min per run

[LalaRu]

I need 1 more dungeon to finish my current book for my Artemis bow. Unfortunately that dungeon is Brayflox Normal. At the moment the running time is 28 minutes. These dungeons were designed for player development to level 50. In today's Eorzea they are ill suited for high level gear and weapons progression. It is now time to rework the Relic Progression concept to meet today's players with an eye to 3.0 and beyond.

You want fully redesign all the Relic progression, because you don't want wait 28 minutes? Of all the things I mark as 'exemplary' on forum, you got up straight to first place.

[SekhmetM]

If you don't want long queue times, don't main DPS.

[kyuven]

What's funny is the Animus books have low level dungeons set as their requirement precisely because the queue times are long.
Can you imagine how bad the queue times would be if no one had an incentive to do them after they outleveled them?
Also, in 3.1, we have no idea how they're going to work the new relic except:
1) It won't REQUIRE the current relic. Key word being require because...
2) There will be SOME bonus to having the "old" relic at that point, but there are absolutely no details other than Yoshi-P's explicitly confirmation that they will be "taken into consideration."

[Jim_Berry]

1) It helps new players get groups via DF.
2) If the quest require only Expert-level dungeons, your wait time will be longer (even as WHM, I wait 20 minutes for Keeper of the Lake).
3) People forget things in MMOs take time to get. This is one of them.

[jlewiss]

Heres the thing. You're gonna be hard pressed to find support when it comes to this type of stuff. I'm sure every single person has hated every single step of the relic quest until... they beat it. Then they don't care about the prior steps unless the plan on making a 2nd relic. I hated doing the animus books and would of signed a petition to have whoever came up with them fired. Now that I'm past that stage? Couldn't care less what they do with it.. It's also kind of backed with the "well it was hard for me so i want it to be hard for you mentality" seen most notably in people who do coil lol