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    Mature's Avatar
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    as MNK. And doing daily hunts during the queue


    Would be fixed with 3.0, I guess. If materia V come ingame and level 60 gear would have a 90% chance to turn into materia IV and a 10% chance to turn into materia V
    I hope you are right as prices for deter crit and acc are way over priced (Ultros 500k tops). And again we can spirit bond but you need the crafting class and the money for it too.
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    Aria Ashford
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I feel like if you're grinding FATEs for Alexandrite, you're doing it wrong... Daily roulette, tomes, and allied seals would be much faster.
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Goblin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Wow, people are really impatient... like others, I work full time and so have limited time. It took me 2 months to do the alex stage - just from daily maps and then buying extra with sol when I had it.

    And actually, that worked perfectly as I also had to work on spiritbonding and earning gil for the materia.

    If you want to rush the alex, do hunts.

    Hunts, fates, sol... so many ways to get. They make it easier and people still complain... not everything should be achievable instantly.
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I haven't farmed any and got 2 randomly doing fates when running through zones.

    one of my fc mate farmed 15 in a day after patch.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    White mage in Northern Thanalan is pretty OP for farming Alexandrite from Fates, since you can use Holy. I've gotten four today.
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 100
    The thing is you can't really ask to have Alexandrite drop rate equal to Atma drop rate. This is because there are alternate ways to actually acquire your Alexandrite while Atma only has 1 way to obtain it. Alexandrite is an alternative solution to those that want to speed things up a bit, it's not a must.

    It's you that choose to battle with rng though, how fast do you wish to complete this Novus step? What's the rush? Why do you really care whether you will or not be able to catch up with those with Zodiac already? Just play at your own pace man~
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    If you ask me, the whole relic quest needs to be trivialized. It's way too grindy, especially in its early stages, and for a weapon that's only equal in strength to equipment you could earn in a single day! You need 75 Alexandrite for your weapon. and 75 pieces of materia in varying grades. The materia requirement alone is enough of a barrier to prevent easy access except to the very wealthy, so it doesn't need to be so hard to find the catalysts.

    Think of how the grind has worked to this point. You grind to get Atma. You grind to get soldiery tomes for your books, then grind to complete those too. That's just for the level 100 weapon, something you could purchase with a fraction of the soldiery costs of the books you've paid for! The next stage is to grind away endlessly for alexandrite, either by completing a daily map (1 per day, 75 days to complete!) or buying maps with YET MORE SOLDIERY! Heavens forbid you might want to actually spend that soldiery elsewhere.

    The alternative? Grind Fates. I think people would mind less if it didn't matter which job you were on, but it does. You need to be on your job with the zodiac equipped for... reasons. So you don't benefit in any tangible way aside from some pocket change and a handful of seals which stopped being useful when we reached the cap on GC ranks.

    So, yes... the relic quest needs to be made easier or at the very least we need more options as to where we can pick up alexandrite. There's a mountain of work to even get an entry-level weapon. So while everyone else is wielding Bartang and beyond, You're stuck with your pitiful level 100 weapon while you grind away at mysterious maps and pray to Hydaelyn than your alexandrite will drop.

    ...and that's before I talk about the light grinding... hoo boy.
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    If you ask me, the whole relic quest needs to be trivialized.
    It's supposed to be a LEGENDARY WEAPON. It does NOT need to be "trivialised". Every stage has already been nerfed. How much more do people want to be babied? Grab one of the many weapon alternatives if relic is too much effort. No one is entitled to have one.
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    Laurelin Kementari
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    It's supposed to be a LEGENDARY WEAPON. It does NOT need to be "trivialised". Every stage has already been nerfed. How much more do people want to be babied? Grab one of the many weapon alternatives if relic is too much effort. No one is entitled to have one.
    Except these 'Legendary Weapons' offer zero advantage over any of the other available weapons to justify the heaps of work they require to make. The reward does not equal the work put into it. One can harvest all Shiva Ex weapons and uprgade them to Diamond status in the time it takes a normal player to make one Nexus Relic. In some cases a Diamon weapon is even better than a Nexus, unless it is fully and perfectly melded, which few people can afford. What sense does that make? Sure, you have the Zodiac to get to i125, but once they add the next tomestones and carbontwine to WoD, everybody will be having a much better Ironworks weapon that requires far less effort to get. By the time the last Zodiac step rolls around that'll put them at i135 (or 130), a freshly arrived lvl 50 player will be much quicker learning T5, T9 and T13 to get a Dreadwyrm weapon instead of going through all Relic stages to get the final Zodiac one. And even if he did, what advantage would this 'Legendary weapon' offer him over a Dreadwyrm weapon, besides a few secondary stats that are neglectable in his DPS/Tanking/Healing output?
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LaurelinKementari View Post
    Except these 'Legendary Weapons' offer zero advantage over any of the other available weapons to justify the heaps of work they require to make. The reward does not equal the work put into it.
    Relic weapons have been upgraded from i80 to currently i125 in various steps... And are currently customizable to suit your other gear better. As content gets harder, relic gets stronger.
    The highest you can currently get as alternative without going into final coil is i115 with non-customizable stats or i110 crafted that you can somewhat customize with materia.
    The chance that a fresh 50 can "just learn" T5, T9 and T13 AND get the relevant drops in less time that it takes to complete a relic is extremely low.
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