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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Agreed. Crosshotbar space is typically much too valuable to waste a slot dedicated to a single type of potion. Nearly every ability I use is macroed to one degree or another, such as combining Cover, Shield Lob, and Shield Bash into a single macro. (Target is an ally? Use Cover. Target is an enemy? If within range, use Shield Bash, if not, Shield Lob.) I would LOVE to have a /item command, to make Potions usable within macros!

    And on the topic of the importance of macros when using the crosshotbar - we need more than 100 macros! After leveling every job, I have no room left for Dark Knight, Astrologian, or Machinist, let alone macros for new abilities we get on existing jobs as we level to 60!
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    Ryans Tardis
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    You guys need to learn how to optimize the cross hotbar better. You can play nearly every job with 1 bar and the combo bar without having to use stupid macros that grant you "efficiency" but actually only make you worse because of how horribly designed the macro system is. As a tank I suppose it doesn't matter too much, but a DD is only losing potential dps with all their buffs on one macro or multiple weapon skill macros.

    My point is that if you optimize the cross hotbar correctly you can have plenty of space for your jobs x-potion of choice.
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    You guys need to learn how to optimize the cross hotbar better. You can play nearly every job with 1 bar and the combo bar without having to use stupid macros that grant you "efficiency" but actually only make you worse because of how horribly designed the macro system is. As a tank I suppose it doesn't matter too much, but a DD is only losing potential dps with all their buffs on one macro or multiple weapon skill macros.

    My point is that if you optimize the cross hotbar correctly you can have plenty of space for your jobs x-potion of choice.
    ^ 10/char...
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    I can easily use two pages on the hotbar.


    I HIGHLY HIGHLY RECOMMEND utilising the hold setting and attatching stuff like items, sprint, teleport on a bar set up so that it is accessed by hold L2 and R2 down. It absolutely vital for me as a summoner as I need those 8 extra slots for pet commands on my main bars, but I have it set up that way on all of my jobs.


    I can do a tutorial of how to set it up when I get home if you want.
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    >Suggests a /useitem command to make using items easier as a QoL suggestion.
    >Everyone suggests I stop sucking at using cross hotbars.

    ...what?
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    Rumina Asou
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    >Suggests a /useitem command to make using items easier as a QoL suggestion.
    >Everyone suggests I stop sucking at using cross hotbars.

    ...what?
    I think it would be easier for people to see your point if they saw your cross hotbar, to see what you are using all of the space on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    I think it would be easier for people to see your point if they saw your cross hotbar, to see what you are using all of the space on.
    Except my point has nothing to do with cross hotbars and everything to do with letting people use items in macros. This whole thread got derailed because some people criticized my inability to manage hotbars effectively and I'd rather get it back on point.

    Besides, even if I did post my cross hotbar layout, everyone here would just criticize my layout because this is the internet.
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    Last edited by HakuroDK; 02-07-2015 at 07:56 AM.

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    Chen Kotomi
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    there's kind of a sneaky way to allow this, but I don't know if it works for gamepads.
    Simply assign the same command to the same button.
    For example, you have have ` activate "hotbar 2 button 2" and "hotbar 3 button 2" and stick the potion on one of those. I don't know how well this works, though, since I keep my potions on a separate key so I can time them better (being a bard, i don't have a super mega hard hitting attack like most classes do, so I have one running for setting DoTs. Which may or may not happen at the same time as throwing up buffs.
    The way I see things, if they HAD a feature and removed it, there was probably a reason we're not being told. MIGHT have something to do with preventing quests from being macroed, but I have no idea.
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    Claire Abigail
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    Maybe because the macro system we have here is already inefficient? Going by your example, which is using a str potion then second wind in one button, you know what the result is gonna be half the time? You'll end up casting second wind and then using the potion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireAbigail View Post
    Maybe because the macro system we have here is already inefficient? Going by your example, which is using a str potion then second wind in one button, you know what the result is gonna be half the time? You'll end up casting second wind and then using the potion.
    I have never had anything like that ever happen in game. My macros have always activated in order of operation. Maybe your network connection is poor?
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