in the future of ffxiv, please no more HNM

[Okiura]

This person is a single minded person or "Trolling/Troll" who just want everything to be instance and pretty much suck the life outside the city for that SE should just remake the maps right and there noting outside everything is instance you want to DOL? you get teleport to a area that you by yourself and everything is there for you to get

Shame that was the OP too, no problem in saying you don't want somthing and putting up a good argument why it is a bad idea to have it. Then letting the other side say why it's a good idea to have it.

Blindly dismissing an idea after reading the first and last line of what someone against your view wrote, pretty much confirms what you just said.

[Zenaku]

Shame that was the OP too, no problem in saying you don't want somthing and putting up a good argument why it is a bad idea to have it. Then letting the other side say why it's a good idea to have it.

Blindly dismissing an idea after reading the first and last line of what someone against your view wrote, pretty much confirms what you just said.

You do understand that i'm all for instance and open world right? when the person is only for Instance only? and the person have said this many time in many topic if you would like to go and read some of the person topic. You can have BCNM=Instance and HNM=Open world you can go and do the bcnm if that all you like and other can go and do the hnm if that what they like.

Once again this argument have become like when casual vs hardcore oh you can't add hardcore event becuase then the casual can't do them ; ; and the hardcore could go and do the casual stuff if they like but we can't do the hardcore stuff. But then again what i'm saying you can do both casual and hardcore can do this the HNM wont be 24hour-3days repop the most they be 1hour which is fine with casual sure you need a party but what does not? if you don't have time you can easy go and do the BCNM version and get the same item for less the time and work.

[Okiura]

You do understand that i'm all for instance and open world right? when the person is only for Instance only? and the person have said this many time in many topic if you would like to go and read some of the person topic. You can have BCNM=Instance and HNM=Open world you can go and do the bcnm if that all you like and other can go and do the hnm if that what they like.

Once again this argument have become like when casual vs hardcore oh you can't add hardcore event becuase then the casual can't do them ; ; and the hardcore could go and do the casual stuff if they like but we can't do the hardcore stuff. But then again what i'm saying you can do both casual and hardcore can do this the HNM wont be 24hour-3days repop the most they be 1hour which is fine with casual sure you need a party but what does not? if you don't have time you can easy go and do the BCNM version and get the same item for less the time and work.

Yeah, content should be there for hardcore players and casual players, personnally i think this hardcore vs casual argument is a load of BS that has popped up too many times in too many topics. in threads that i have been active in i get (incorrently) accused of being a hardcore player and have taken a lot a flack for it. seems most threads follow a similar theme, the norrow minded ppl that don't read any post apart from ones that agree with them, and ppl who put forward ideas to impliment content in a fair way (the suppose'd hardcore players).

it's sad really cos the end goal is to have a game there is fun for everyone but doens't favor one type of player over another and the only way the DEV team can take these posts seriously is if there is valid argument form all sides, but with ppl like the OP on these forums thats never really gonna happen.

[Commat]

it's sad really cos the end goal is to have a game there is fun for everyone but doens't favor one type of player over another and the only way the DEV team can take these posts seriously is if there is valid argument form all sides, but with ppl like the OP on these forums thats never really gonna happen.

What I find interesting about the OP is that he/she has equated poor mechanics with world content not working when there are a 100 different ways SE can handle the situation.

Most obviously, HNM's can easily have a personal cool down timer. So maybe they spawn every hour or so but individually you can only kill the same one every 24 hours. That would relieve the OP's main compliant without taking out a great form of content.

[Zenaku]

What I find interesting about the OP is that he/she has equated poor mechanics with world content not working when there are a 100 different ways SE can handle the situation.

Most obviously, HNM's can easily have a personal cool down timer. So maybe they spawn every hour or so but individually you can only kill the same one every 24 hours. That would relieve the OP's main compliant without taking out a great form of content.

o.o wow i never thought about this idea i hope one of the dev read this i like this idea a lot very casual but hardcore at the same time. This would also fix the bot issue it's not like people can be there 24.7 hunting down the same HNM so even if the bot party get it you can get it again within 1hour if someone else get it well you can get it the next 1hour so you get a better and better chance of getting it.

or you can do the BCNM version if you want.

[Okiura]

What I find interesting about the OP is that he/she has equated poor mechanics with world content not working when there are a 100 different ways SE can handle the situation.

Most obviously, HNM's can easily have a personal cool down timer. So maybe they spawn every hour or so but individually you can only kill the same one every 24 hours. That would relieve the OP's main compliant without taking out a great form of content.

Another great idea! Doubt the OP would agree but this works too ^^, there is soo many ways this can be done to make it fair to everyone.

Bottom line is it all comes down to skill, no matter how many hours a week you play be it 2 or 200, if you don't have it you're gonna /cry and stomp your feet, and say anyting that is remotely challanging isn't fair. then thow a few names about like Hardcore and eleitisum.

[Zenaku]

Yeah, content should be there for hardcore players and casual players, personnally i think this hardcore vs casual argument is a load of BS that has popped up too many times in too many topics. in threads that i have been active in i get (incorrently) accused of being a hardcore player and have taken a lot a flack for it. seems most threads follow a similar theme, the norrow minded ppl that don't read any post apart from ones that agree with them, and ppl who put forward ideas to impliment content in a fair way (the suppose'd hardcore players).

it's sad really cos the end goal is to have a game there is fun for everyone but doens't favor one type of player over another and the only way the DEV team can take these posts seriously is if there is valid argument form all sides, but with ppl like the OP on these forums thats never really gonna happen.

That the issue Casual = over 80% so they going to listen to them the days of working your butt off for a item and seeing other with it is over ; ;. I remember when i got my monk the hands and feet -.- feet 1/2 and hands 1/6 and everyone like omg how many try it took and they told me they like 0/300 that was just crazy it made me feel great that i had the rare,ex version of the item but there still a way for casual to get it without that much work.

that the issue most casual only want casual events because they going to see the hardcore players having so much fun and doing hard work to get something done that they pretty much did in less then 1hour. it's like so what? we want to work 1year and 150mil to get this full update sword and it took you 1week to do then so what we want to work to feel good about our goals. you still got the item what your big deal just because i got the rare,ex version of the same item you just did within 1week?

See the issue they being selfish they don't want the hardcore to feel good about what we just did. but that a part of the issue with causal vs hardcore. i sit here and say i'm not hardcore and i'm not casual i play ffxiv for 14hours and got pretty much noting done i play ffxi for hours at end and took me 2years to get 75 why? because i like having fun and helping friends. Now at days no one care about helping they only care about themself.

Anyone remember the days you could /sh in ffxi and 10-15 people would help you with mission,quest and Limit breaks? i sure do that days are gone and that ok i can deal with that.

but for the love of god allow hardcore to have something ; ; you can make the same 10 item drop in a bcnm and then have 4 HNM that drop the same thing in rare,ex what the issue with that?