in the future of ffxiv, please no more HNM

[weeble]

This game wouldn't even exist without FFXI players.

lol yeah really, second every ffxi player finally leaves this game is done with. if u ask me we bank rolled this game, and the players who still play it are paying for it to be fixed. i think it deserves to be someone ffxi'ish, and sure as hell not wow'ish. ty.


also the thought of the sandworm made me think of something in how it pulls u into itself, more mobs that pop on a quiker timer that does this could be a cool way to go, turns instance so nm's and shells can't get in each others way after claims, and faster pops where the next nm would pop b4 the other group exits would be awsome, that way other group outside would claim next one. just a thought.

[Zanfire]

This game wouldn't even exist without FFXI players.

pretty much, this games population or people willing to give it any chance is mostly FFXI players...and the polls way back when were proof of that. Actual quote from the poll:

"The majority of FINAL FANTASY XIV players polled have a history of playing FINAL FANTASY XI, which is a result we here at Square Enix were certainly happy to see. To us, this serves to illustrate the loyalty and passion of FINAL FANTASY fans, and both the development and management teams were truly moved by this result!"

HNMs SHOULD be in here. Are you forced to do them? no...so don't act like its required. Also With how they do things and learning from FFXI, they would make most of that gear exclusive or "u/u" in this game, so bot farmers have no reason to do them, just shells that want to pimp out their players..a. simple fix to rid of the RMT. Also, seeing as how this game is more casual friendly, i can see the timers not being as long...but they need to be decently long enough so they dont feel common or like every other NM.

[Zenaku]

pretty much, this games population or people willing to give it any chance is mostly FFXI players...and the polls way back when were proof of that. Actual quote from the poll:

"The majority of FINAL FANTASY XIV players polled have a history of playing FINAL FANTASY XI, which is a result we here at Square Enix were certainly happy to see. To us, this serves to illustrate the loyalty and passion of FINAL FANTASY fans, and both the development and management teams were truly moved by this result!"

HNMs SHOULD be in here. Are you forced to do them? no...so don't act like its required. Also With how they do things and learning from FFXI, they would make most of that gear exclusive or "u/u" in this game, so bot farmers have no reason to do them, just shells that want to pimp out their players..a. simple fix to rid of the RMT. Also, seeing as how this game is more casual friendly, i can see the timers not being as long...but they need to be decently long enough so they dont feel common or like every other NM.

100% agree with you on this problem is single minded people are messing up the game. There heads are like this if they add HNM then i'm forced to do it. If they add hardcore events then i'm forced to do it when there still BCNM for them / casual stuff like leves and many other stuff.

This is the issue with people on here they can't get in there head that you can have both in a game.

[Chain]

Totally agree, sometimes I catch myself looking back with nostalgia goggles. I often think of the few fun times I had killing Nid,aspi, and KB and then remember all the times we were stepped on by bots.

Every single server had those 1 or 2 linkshells that had 10 claim bots at every camp, unless you were willing to put your account at risk it was a lose/lose situation. Killing kings had all to do with your claim bot and nothing to do with skill.

My linkshell was one of the oldest and most successful in terms of content on my server (first to kill all 3 wyrms etc) but our claim success on kings was maybe 5% if we were lucky.


PS: I know wyrms are a joke now but I'm speaking of "back in the day"

[Ichi]

Yea I remember when I was getting my first 75 I used to hear all about the bots. Then i got to 75, joined an HNMLS and claimed one of the 3 kings at least 5 times a week.

wah wah wah.

[Ichi]

Doesn't anyone here care about the rest of the community? Seeing a group fight great buffalo randomly while your on a solo Bald knoll leve? Does that not have any effect on you? Isn't it immersive?

Surely you wouldn't want all players to be phased out and only fade in when they make direct interactions with you would you? This is just another step towards that.

If you don't like bots put your energies into fighting bots. It's as if you'd ban guns because of a shooting. Maybe it won't happen again with guns but the problem is still there. Bots are just going to effect something else. Use your brains, and direct your energies appropriately people.

[TheVedis]

What I see here

1) people dont like long fights
2) people dont like them especialy when the drop rate is low
3) people dont like to have to go out and try to find the mob spawned(the spawn rate on them isnt bad, i mean come on now)
4) people dont like hard fights
5) people dont like it when they find someone killing the mob they got a group together to go out and fight
6) people whine alot

[Zanfire]

seems to me like half the people want everything to give instant gratification, the other half want only the hard stuff so the "casuals" go away and then the small bit of us who get that sometimes things can cater to both crowds....ah the minority...

[Gennosuke]

pretty much, this games population or people willing to give it any chance is mostly FFXI players...and the polls way back when were proof of that. Actual quote from the poll:

"The majority of FINAL FANTASY XIV players polled have a history of playing FINAL FANTASY XI, which is a result we here at Square Enix were certainly happy to see. To us, this serves to illustrate the loyalty and passion of FINAL FANTASY fans, and both the development and management teams were truly moved by this result!"

HNMs SHOULD be in here. Are you forced to do them? no...so don't act like its required. Also With how they do things and learning from FFXI, they would make most of that gear exclusive or "u/u" in this game, so bot farmers have no reason to do them, just shells that want to pimp out their players..a. simple fix to rid of the RMT. Also, seeing as how this game is more casual friendly, i can see the timers not being as long...but they need to be decently long enough so they dont feel common or like every other NM.

Nice post! Good job bringing that up.

Also, Fully agree with you regarding RMT/bots, i was just going to suggest that myself, SE can make the important rare drops unique/non-tradeable. That should filter out the wrong bunch and keep it a goal for real players seeking to improve their chars.

[Tsukino]

I don't know why people hate things so much that they want them out of the game entirely. Let other people have their fun.

I didn't like camping world-pop HNMs either in FFXI. You know how I dealt with it? By not participating.