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    Clarkamite's Avatar
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    I doubt they would continue this specific weapon chain into Heavensward. That would be a huge chunk of outdated content to run on the new jobs. I think they will start over with a new relic chain, however, I believe that if you have completed the line from this set of patches into 3.0 that will give us something. Whether it's a title or something rather small I don't know but they would almost have to include something that gives you recognition for pumping all that time into a relic. Or in my case, two.

    EDIT: The only way I can seem them continuing this specific chain would be to nerf the entire thing so far even farther into the ground than it already is. I'm talking Alex's from every fate, Atma's from every fate, only needing to do a few books, etc. Otherwise, I don't think this one will continue outside of some small thing they add in the game just to acknowledge those who did it.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarkamite View Post
    I doubt they would continue this specific weapon chain into Heavensward. That would be a huge chunk of outdated content to run on the new jobs. I think they will start over with a new relic chain, however, I believe that if you have completed the line from this set of patches into 3.0 that will give us something. Whether it's a title or something rather small I don't know but they would almost have to include something that gives you recognition for pumping all that time into a relic. Or in my case, two.

    EDIT: The only way I can seem them continuing this specific chain would be to nerf the entire thing so far even farther into the ground than it already is. I'm talking Alex's from every fate, Atma's from every fate, only needing to do a few books, etc. Otherwise, I don't think this one will continue outside of some small thing they add in the game just to acknowledge those who did it.
    Pretty much this. It is simply unfeasible to continue the relic quest series into the expansion.

    Expansions are typically the best time for an MMO to pick up new subscribers as they usually reset gear and content progression with a new level cap. If the current relic quest series continued into 3.0 then you'll have a LOT of new players hitting level 60 and finding themselves being forced to grind hundreds of hours in old content before they can progress... From a game design standpoint that would be a frankly stupid path to take.

    Anyone hoping they will continue the relic into the expansion is just desperately hoping all the time and energy they put in doesn't go to waste. The truth is though the relics have never been anything more than a cosmetic vanity item anyway so even if the quest ends you'll still have the cosmetic value of your accomplishment.

    Given that we have three new jobs coming I'd say it's most likely we'll get a new relic-equivalent quest series that starts at 60 and includes all of the new jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    those factors are irrelevant if they have new quests that let people jump on without touching the old one. imagine if there's Lv 60 PLD job quest (similar to the original A Relic Reborn quest) that ends with an Excalibur, you would circumvent the Curtana parts completely.
    And that would be the ultimate way to piss everyone off that spent hundreds of hours grinding only to have someone walk in and do an easy quest to get the same weapon. Most people would up and quit with relics then and there since they'd know they'll get a handout one at the next expansion...
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    Last edited by Alberel; 02-06-2015 at 10:30 PM.

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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Expansions are typically the best time for an MMO to pick up new subscribers as they usually reset gear and content progression with a new level cap. If the current relic quest series continued into 3.0 then you'll have a LOT of new players hitting level 60 and finding themselves being forced to grind hundreds of hours in old content before they can progress... From a game design standpoint that would be a frankly stupid path to take.
    That will depend on how they set up levels 50 to 60. If they expect new players to do most of the 2.X endgame content between levels 50 and 59 then there should not be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    And that would be the ultimate way to piss everyone off that spent hundreds of hours grinding only to have someone walk in and do an easy quest to get the same weapon. Most people would up and quit with relics then and there since they'd know they'll get a handout one at the next expansion...
    possibly yes, but can they really sell an expansion where a major part of it is inaccessible. how long can they keep stretching this quest that has a smaller and smaller pool of players taking part in it as it gets longer.

    the Alexander raid will not need Final Coil clear to access, the expansion gives a new jump on point. something similar can happen to the weapon quest.
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