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    They should shed some light on...

    what's going to happen to the relic quest after the expansion, really. There is a lot of speculation going around and it's hurting badly peoples' desire to continue the relic quest (especially those on the early stages of the weapon).

    "What if I start doing the relic quest now and by the time I'm almost done with it they release a new relic that trashes all the mindless (let's face it, relic quest is mind numbing) hundreds of hours I've pumped into this game"

    Yoshi should come and say himself that the relic is going to continue on the expansion. If that's not the case, I can see why he's not saying a thing about this topic...but honestly, I would find it pretty lowish... (unless they somehow come up with something unexpected that fixes the whole thing up...if their great idea is vanity they better come up with something else).

    "But you don't have to do the relic quest". True. And I'm not continuing it for this precise reason lol.
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    Forgive as I don't have the source on me, but Yoshi did say the relics will continue aside from the appearance of the HW class of relics.

    What remains to be seen is if you can flag weapons "just as good" as relics by doing something simple to start their first leg.

    Why would you spend the immense amount of time catching up 2.0 Relic when you can spend 1/8th that time tiering into your first HW relic which will probably have a floor ilvl or 145 or something?

    This answers your question, but immediately creates a worry of almost the same nature I am afraid.
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    I really hope they just do away with support of this mindless grindfest. I can't bring myself to do it at all once I got to the Atma books and saw the Alexandrite and Materia part of the quest comes next I was like:




    Never touched it again. Won't touch it no matter what either. No stats, looks or item level is worth it. Subscription time better spent maximizing fun, that is minimizing fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
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    I have to agree, and also disagree. The amount of effort required from launch was NOT worth what we have now. I never got to enjoy the nerfs.

    My atma grind alone took 106 hours, and I had to spend 8-10 hours a day to make ends meet getting my Alexandrite and tomes to hurry the process via maps. Don't even get me started on Nexus and the DD/AV queues as a dps....

    My issue was and still would be the reliance on OTHER players. I have my entire relic finished, and I'll tell you now that the worst part for me personally, was having to rely on other players for queues, fates, and the huge gil sink that was Materia.

    I thoroughly enjoy grinding and working towards a goal, but not when it's linked and dependant upon others.

    As for the OP, there has already been confirmation as the 2nd poster stated saying they are continuing. Here's the Famitsu interview. Translating it shows that Yoshi states it will indeed continue in 3.1. Anyone saying it won't is wrong and delusional.

    http://s.famitsu.com/news/201501/20069775.html
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    Last edited by Laerad3993; 02-06-2015 at 10:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    I really hope they just do away with support of this mindless grindfest. I can't bring myself to do it at all once I got to the Atma books and saw the Alexandrite and Materia part of the quest comes next I was like:

    Never touched it again. Won't touch it no matter what either. No stats, looks or item level is worth it. Subscription time better spent maximizing fun, that is minimizing fun.
    I like the grind so much I have two zodiac.
    If they removed the grind from relic quests I would probably quit the game eventually because there wouldn't be anything to do for me, except waiting in 2 hrs queues for pvp!
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    I doubt they would continue this specific weapon chain into Heavensward. That would be a huge chunk of outdated content to run on the new jobs. I think they will start over with a new relic chain, however, I believe that if you have completed the line from this set of patches into 3.0 that will give us something. Whether it's a title or something rather small I don't know but they would almost have to include something that gives you recognition for pumping all that time into a relic. Or in my case, two.

    EDIT: The only way I can seem them continuing this specific chain would be to nerf the entire thing so far even farther into the ground than it already is. I'm talking Alex's from every fate, Atma's from every fate, only needing to do a few books, etc. Otherwise, I don't think this one will continue outside of some small thing they add in the game just to acknowledge those who did it.
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    There are several factors that will determine how much of a pain doing the current relic quest will be in HW.
    1. How long it takes to level up from 50 to 60?
    2. Will they furthur increase drop rates of atma, alexandrite, light and zodiak components?
    3. Will some stuff convert to Tier IV materia default?

    1 and 2 will determine if doing the Relic quest while leveling up is a viable thing. 3 will determine if doing the Relic quest is affordable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    There are several factors that will determine how much of a pain doing the current relic quest will be in HW.
    1. How long it takes to level up from 50 to 60?
    2. Will they furthur increase drop rates of atma, alexandrite, light and zodiak components?
    3. Will some stuff convert to Tier IV materia default?

    1 and 2 will determine if doing the Relic quest while leveling up is a viable thing. 3 will determine if doing the Relic quest is affordable.
    those factors are irrelevant if they have new quests that let people jump on without touching the old one. imagine if there's Lv 60 PLD job quest (similar to the original A Relic Reborn quest) that ends with an Excalibur, you would circumvent the Curtana parts completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarkamite View Post
    I doubt they would continue this specific weapon chain into Heavensward. That would be a huge chunk of outdated content to run on the new jobs. I think they will start over with a new relic chain, however, I believe that if you have completed the line from this set of patches into 3.0 that will give us something. Whether it's a title or something rather small I don't know but they would almost have to include something that gives you recognition for pumping all that time into a relic. Or in my case, two.

    EDIT: The only way I can seem them continuing this specific chain would be to nerf the entire thing so far even farther into the ground than it already is. I'm talking Alex's from every fate, Atma's from every fate, only needing to do a few books, etc. Otherwise, I don't think this one will continue outside of some small thing they add in the game just to acknowledge those who did it.
    Pretty much this. It is simply unfeasible to continue the relic quest series into the expansion.

    Expansions are typically the best time for an MMO to pick up new subscribers as they usually reset gear and content progression with a new level cap. If the current relic quest series continued into 3.0 then you'll have a LOT of new players hitting level 60 and finding themselves being forced to grind hundreds of hours in old content before they can progress... From a game design standpoint that would be a frankly stupid path to take.

    Anyone hoping they will continue the relic into the expansion is just desperately hoping all the time and energy they put in doesn't go to waste. The truth is though the relics have never been anything more than a cosmetic vanity item anyway so even if the quest ends you'll still have the cosmetic value of your accomplishment.

    Given that we have three new jobs coming I'd say it's most likely we'll get a new relic-equivalent quest series that starts at 60 and includes all of the new jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    those factors are irrelevant if they have new quests that let people jump on without touching the old one. imagine if there's Lv 60 PLD job quest (similar to the original A Relic Reborn quest) that ends with an Excalibur, you would circumvent the Curtana parts completely.
    And that would be the ultimate way to piss everyone off that spent hundreds of hours grinding only to have someone walk in and do an easy quest to get the same weapon. Most people would up and quit with relics then and there since they'd know they'll get a handout one at the next expansion...
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    Last edited by Alberel; 02-06-2015 at 10:30 PM.

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    It was said in an interview a while ago by Yoshi that it will continue somehow in 3.1. It's on the forums a couple of times already.

    And for people mentioning gear reset I doubt it. I'm thinking main story will kinda be needed and that in itself won't reset gear. Just make more of it. I'd say the current endgame gear will be about what we get at lvl60(with lvl52/53 being i90(to finish the current main story). And then the next threadmill starts. It was also mentioned at one point by Yoshi that ilvl should stop ~150/160(sorry can't find that but it was during a live letter at one point).

    As for cosmetic value. Not really for me it's BiS due to the substats. All other weapons I use for glamour though.
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    Last edited by ruskie; 02-06-2015 at 10:55 PM.

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