More houses?

[Althena]

There does need to be more housing. New FCs don't have a chance to take part in this part of the game and on my server (Balmung) there are no estates left. Just looking from an FC standpoint there just aren't enough and that's not even talking about a individual housing position.

[Chihaya]

Yea, been awhile since all the houses on Balmung been gone, even the large ones.

I'm a lucky owner of a small house in a subdivision, but I have friends that tried to save up for a large house just for them to be sold out.

[BellaEyria]

Hello,
first I would like to warn you that english is not my primary language so I will try to do my best here, please excuse me if I make any mistakes.

In my opinion, personal house was one of the worst thing SE could implement into housing. Let me explain myself:

Before personal housing was implemented, FCs were already fighting for plots (and I think we still need new plots, but personal houses just made this worse), now here is what I see: I was walking in a district to see how people decorated their house and just in front of a FC Manor I saw 3 retainers with 3 differents owners and I said to myself: wait didnt I already see another retainer in another house with the same owner? I just came back visiting small plots around and indeed: 3 small personnal houses around this FC Manor were owned by the SAME 3 OWNERS!! So those 3 players have their own house AND their FC Manor...?

Those 3 small house plots could have made happy 3 differents FC so around 60 players (counting 20 players in each FC) but no, they are making happy only 3 players....
I understand that everyone want to be able to have something personal, but not in this case I am sorry... do we really need on HOUSE per player...? how many players are there on only 1 server...? It will never be possible...

The thing I suggest if everyone want something personal (and I can understand that) which we can decorate, invite friends in, and whatever... is to be able to buy a PERSONNAL ROOM (not a plot, not a FC room...) in a INN (why not put a INN in the housing area?) those rooms will behave like FC rooms so they won't use any server memory like SE keeps telling us about new plots.

Here is my idea, I understand that I will have all players who bought or want to buy personal house against me, but I think that SE shouldn't have implement this in the first place.

We are in an MMO so for me "personal" should go after "FC" things.

(I am not complaining about myself here as my FC already has an FC house and we are all really happy with it. I am just seeing plots being taken by 1 player when a lot of FC (20+ players each...) want to buy one... and it makes me sad. Yes, you will say to me that "it is like this, it is a plots race" but this shouldn't be a race in the first place...)

EDIT: And I agree 100% : abandonned houses shoud be removed (but don't punish players: put all their items somewhere so they can have them back)

[Nyonmyan]

Those 3 small house plots could have made happy 3 differents FC so around 60 players (counting 20 players in each FC) but no, they are making happy only 3 players....
I understand that everyone want to be able to have something personal, but not in this case I am sorry... do we really need on HOUSE per player...? how many players are there on only 1 server...? It will never be possible...

I love the Inn idea, but if individual player makes more money than whole FC then why should house go to slow/lazy FC and not the hardworking individual? We still have free M plots (17kk) on our server and 17kk is practically nothing. Step it up, seriously.

And again, Inn idea is brilliant. It would've satisfied individuals who are fine with one room, plus small/young FCs and would've brought more people into wards. Wards would feel more interesting and diverse as well.

[Nialle]

If they don't want to expand housing wards again, then they need to implement the reclaimation of plots held by accounts without an active sub. Keeping housing plots rare and not giving the option of inactive accounts to lose their claim to ones they aren't even using is unfair to active players.

[Nyalia]

If they don't want to expand housing wards again, then they need to implement the reclaimation of plots held by accounts without an active sub. Keeping housing plots rare and not giving the option of inactive accounts to lose their claim to ones they aren't even using is unfair to active players.

So, it's more fair if a player spends couple months doing something other than FF (school, overseas vacation, military assignment, etc) and they come back to find their 37 million gil mansion (minimum price on my server - 34m fully depreciated plus 3m for the permit; it would cost 71m+ to get it back at full price) gone along with all the items that can't be picked up and are lost when the house is lost (ex primal decorations, ADS Illuminants, Armoires etc)? How is THAT fair?

SE made a number of decisions I strongly disagree with regarding housing, but the way to fix it isn't to randomly delete people's hard-earned housing just because they aren't using it 24/7. That just compounds the problem. If SE wants to fix housing, they just need to either give us truly instanced housing like we've been asking for (the neighborhood thing is really not much of a plus) or give us personal housing that's truly separate from FC housing. Heck, just leave what we have the way we have it and create one-house instances similar to the rooms and have them accessible from a common entrance in any ward. You go to the zone, or the NPC guarding the pass, and you get a menu like for personal housing where you can choose a house to visit. It takes you to a small valley area with just the house. Boom, housing issues fixed, no limit to housing. Leave the housing currently in place for people who want to show off and give everyone else a private house off on their own.

As far as I can tell, the FFXIV developers have a tendency to go "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we do things such-and-such a way? Some people will really get a kick out of it!" and they do not think about the scalability, long-term effects, or all the people who don't care about the "coolness" factor. Someone thought it'd be really neat if houses were in a public area where you could wander by and see other people's houses and you could display trophies on your front lawn and you'd have neighbors and such. But, they didn't think about how such a design, while cool, has serious scalability issues and does not jive with their server storage model (at least, I assume it doesn't, else they'd be have a dynamic number of wards that would grow with demand).

Cool presentation does have its advantages, but designing a feature in an MMO with a strict limit on the number of people who can participate in it EVER, and then tying more and more new features to that feature with strict limits, that's just really poorly thought out design. It's not cool when you gate content behind seniority. A new player on Balmung cannot have a personal house, ever. They cannot play around with Gardening on their own. They cannot grow their own chocobo food. What happens when Gold Saucer comes out? How much content will they be gated from participating in? I'm assuming chocobo food and stables will be involved in chocobo breeding for the races.

[Maero]

I do not know about medium or large but all small houses i do believe are full on Leviathan.
I was saving up for a personal house, but then came along the next gil sink steps of Relic....
New plots would be great and i truely hope something also gets added later on after 3.0 arrives

[Gillionaire]

I was saving up for a personal house, but then came along the next gil sink steps of Relic....

I'm not trying to be mean and I hope you can understand this without getting offended.. But if you're referring to buying a pre-relic weapon and attaching 2 tier III materia on it as a gil sink... you really need to find a better way to farm gil.. Or just settle for the "apartments" in your FC housing in the form of private chambers.

Ugh, this exactly.

I want to buy a home for my (small) FC, but there is NO way we could afford to pay twice for it. And that's IF we find someone who's even willing to sell to us. There HAS to be some way to resell a house that'd be fair to both parties. Right now, it's unfair to both, as sellers don't get back all of their money, and buyers have to pay twice, which makes no sense to me.

It'd be nice to at least have an official word as to if they're at least working on it, or if they have any plans for the (hopefully near) future...

You could buy an FC with housing attached (many of those for sale on my server lately) and hope that you can change the FC name somewhere along the future updates.
Not an ideal solution but it may be your only way to get the housing if you can't afford to pay double the price for it.. Because paying off somebody to relinquish and buying the plot would set you back a lot more

[Zelas]

SE, please. >.> A word on this?

[Verdan]

There ISN'T enough housing in certain servers. It is disingenuous(at best) to say that housing needs are met. If you want people to transfer in order to get houses, you need to make transferring super easy and super easy all the time. Since it isn't and there's restrictions on legacy servers, you are not going to solve server loads via transferring for housing. It is incredibly stupid design to attempt that. A growing game can't put halts on an important part of their game and expect people to not complain. As sever populations rise, this will come to pass on many other worlds.

Y'all crabs gotta stop trying to pull people into the pot. Land needs are straight up not met on certain servers, and those on those servers have every right to complain as loud as they want.