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    DarkDepravity's Avatar
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    [Dev1130] - Movement speed

    Movement speed will be reduced to walking speed.
    Is this really necessary?

    Granted, the point can be made that it is a tradeoff for being able to sneak in, and the argument can be made for "realistic sneaking", but it seems remarkably unnecessary to me.

    Do we really need to add an element that will be nothing but an annoyance for everyone but the diehard "I want superrealistic immersion"-crowd?

    (before anyone asks about my DoL ranks, 1x 50 miner and 46 botany on primary character, 35 bot&min on second)
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Can't always have your cake and eat it too
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    If SE gave us sneak and invisible items, I'd use them over stealth walk. :/
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    *casts Deodorize*
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    Drasdras Darkmoon
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    You're asking if it's necessary?, I'd say yes, patience is a virtue for all us gatherers in which ever 3 of the DoL you chose. While dealing with different kinds of monsters blocking you're path moving carefully is a necessary in the first place, and knowing when to walk slow then move fast.
    the effect will wear off if you reuse the action
    you're DoL Ranking, Gratz.
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    Last edited by Dras6fin; 08-23-2011 at 09:35 PM.

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    Rand Al'thor
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    I think the trade off is fair. Don't see why they should let DoL be able to stealth and walk normal speed.

    There is no timer on it so basically you use when a mob is blocking your way, once you are clear you remove it to run faster.
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    Narshala Beaumont
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    Trade of is perfectly fine. Would I prefer to go faster? Of course, but I am willing to move slow for stealth.
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    I think it is a great idea, otherwise there is no point in ever turning it off, you could run around without a care in the world. It was a good idea, makes you look and know when to use it
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    Bisera Cecilina
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    Hello everyone! Imma give my two cents, even if my DoL are rather piddly in level. ^^;

    I think that the Gathering classes need something like this. They need to be able to harvest without the worry of aggro.

    One thing that I would change is this. "Movement speed will be reduced to walking speed." I think that movement speed should remain the same, if not increased.

    I think this because I do not think that it would be game braking at all. Furthermore, my opinion is supported by the other points Triairy made when introducing this skill to us.

    *Once executed, the stealth effect will remain indefinitely.
    However, the effect will wear off if you reuse the action, incur enmity, enter certain areas, or change classes.
    *The action cannot be used while incurring enmity, nor while on chocoback.
    *The action is not subjected to a recast time.
    *The stealth effect nullifies any effects present that grant increased movement speed.

    The players who choose to go the route of Gathering (Disciples of the Land) to level up and play the game should not be punished for choosing to play the game in this fashion. Since this ability cannot be used by any other class, riding chocobo, or using any gear that increases movement speed this becomes their only way of going about and harvesting/mining/whatever. Seeing as the game world is huge even with increased movement speed it would take a long time to get anywhere, especially if the player has to go back and empty inventory (should they run out of anima, even if they shouldn't. Teleporting to the closest aetheryte crystal doesn't mean that the player will be where they need to be).

    Another point I would like to bring up is that DoL do not have an attack ability of their own, at least as far as I can tell. (I could very well be wrong about this and if I am, I sincerely apologize and will edit my post asap!) So there really isn't a danger of them grinding via mobs for exp (for example). A

    Slightly off subject. I do wish that the other classes had a sneak/invis ability, or an item alternative like prism powders/ silent oils (a la FFXI). Sometimes a player just wants to explore or if they have a quest that takes them through an area with higher level mobs, it would be a boon.

    In any case, thanks for your time everyone!

    P.S. DarkDepravity- I agree with you. I want to have fun while gaming, not mimic 'realism'. ^^;
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    Last edited by Anapingofness; 08-26-2011 at 03:42 PM.

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    BTN is slowly becomming my main class, i actually really enjoying playing it. somtimes when i'm walking along there is a mob blocking my way, so i have to skillfully work my way around it to get to where i want to be.

    This to me is fun, skillfully navigating the battlefield to collect my ingreadance.

    Does DoL need Sneak/Invis?

    Sure in some cases it's not possable to navigate your way past the mob or there is simply too many to make it possible and this feature will come in handy.

    What if i could Stealth up and run around at full speed or faster for an unlimited/limited time?

    Where this may not seem to be a game changer to some, I think it would be. All that will be left is the BTN mini game, and i sure to "some" that will be seem as a unessary obsticle too ^^.

    Stelth up and move walking speed?

    I'd be happy with this or walking speed + x% would work for me too.

    Duration & Cooldown?

    Not unlimited Duration, Walk, run or whatever this wouldn't be good. Cooldown not instant and not too long, somwhere between 20-30 seconds would be fine.

    What actions can be performed while in Stelth mode?

    Simple answer for me, None.
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