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  1. #31
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    SirTaint's Avatar
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    Sir Taint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    Yep.
    t10http://i.imgur.com/4wAP2ZA.png
    t12http://i.imgur.com/BRAx9O5.png
    Thing is im still not sold on doing this, except maybe t12 since it does make the fight easier.

    Tank swapping? The WAR is very low but you took more damage.
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  2. #32
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    Wizhard's Avatar
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    Wizhard Felfury
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Tank swapping? The WAR is very low but you took more damage.
    Had a few hurdles, hes usually higher.
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  3. #33
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    Stox Diamond
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    Yep.
    t10
    t12
    Thing is im still not sold on doing this, except maybe t12 since it does make the fight easier.
    I know the meta here is tank DPS and all (I love doing deeps on my WAR), but I honestly believe that you'll get more raid DPS if you just stay in shield oath (or have WAR MT in defiance) and have your SCH full-time dps in T10.
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  4. #34
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    Ganga Loo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    451 is awesome yeah. Looks like they are getting paeon based on the low BRD DPS.

    For controller I made lock on r3. Less mistakes then using l3 and very easy to toggle on and off for dodging.
    I also believe they're not using Storm's Path at all. I know for a fact that Daerion isn't, not sure about Tera. If he's doing 450 chances are they aren't using Path.

    Quote Originally Posted by stoxastic View Post
    I know the meta here is tank DPS and all (I love doing deeps on my WAR), but I honestly believe that you'll get more raid DPS if you just stay in shield oath (or have WAR MT in defiance) and have your SCH full-time dps in T10.
    Don't think so. SCH can still do around 350 DPS while healing a Sword Oath MT. Warrior can stay out of Defiance the entire time.
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    Last edited by Gangaloo; 02-18-2015 at 11:26 PM.

  5. #35
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    Wizhard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoxastic View Post
    I know the meta here is tank DPS and all (I love doing deeps on my WAR), but I honestly believe that you'll get more raid DPS if you just stay in shield oath (or have WAR MT in defiance) and have your SCH full-time dps in T10.
    Meh, tbh if this meta served some purpose it mightve been interesting. As it stand tho, its just something to do out of boredom, if you have a lot of raid-time on your hands.
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  6. #36
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    Ele D'troy
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturcity View Post
    If you are using controller, you MUST use Standard setting to maximize DPS. I think that might be your problem. In my FC, me and one other WAR can do 450+.

    Use Defiance only when you have Unchained and so on. Also we Holmgang the Charges.
    Here's the parses of me and him.

    http://i.imgur.com/ynSavQ2.png
    Tera'ul Fiora

    http://i.imgur.com/bwS6Pew.png
    Daeriion Aeradiir
    Intrigued by these parses; do you two also pull 450+ on a dummy? I'm getting close to 400 in T10 and on a dummy I can pull 420+ if I'm lucky with my crit rate. I might try and convince my group to let me Holmgang the charges.

    EDIT: I also use lock on with legacy controls. I recorded my last T10 session at 389 DPS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md5Sh2CxpSc

    Also curious as to how other warriors tackle the adds, currently I'm pulling them with Infuriate + Steel Cyclone but I feel like this is a waste of Infuriate so I might experiment with some other ways... Maybe Flash, Infuraite + Unchained + Overpower? Idk.

    EDIT II: Just been talking to another Warrior... next week I'm going to try charging an Unchained Skull Sunder for the Son and then Butcher's Block the Daughter, followed by an Overpower to keep aggro since mine are burned down first.
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    Last edited by Ele_Pls; 02-20-2015 at 12:40 AM.

  7. #37
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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by stoxastic View Post
    I know the meta here is tank DPS and all (I love doing deeps on my WAR), but I honestly believe that you'll get more raid DPS if you just stay in shield oath (or have WAR MT in defiance) and have your SCH full-time dps in T10.
    Not one bit, SCH loses nothing by having full Sword Oath on Imdugud. The boss generally hits weak, and with the right CDs and Viruses and phase pushes every Rip is negated to paltry levels.

    We basically go Sword Oath in every turn but T11 (gonna do it next week). Our SCH may have to do an occasional extra Adlo or Lustrate for safety's sake but the 100+ DPS we gain from Sword Oath over Shield Oath is far, far more than he loses by tossing the occasional GCD/stack out to help.

    The question you should have is, can the WHM DPS more with Shield Oath Oath, and to that I would answer, yes but not to a level of 100 DPS more than Sword Oath PLD - if WHM has enough spare time to DPS with Shield Oath PLD, he most certainly has some time to DPS with Sword Oath PLD.
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  8. #38
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    Rozaria Eleanor
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    Ragnarok
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    Culinarian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ele_Pls View Post
    snip
    i saw your video, lots wasted movements on adds and i think you should start rotation with Heavy>Brutal/Zerk>Maim>IR>SE>Xpot>Fracture>HS>Maim>SE>HS>Maim>SE or butchers whatever works you should be pacified after SE or BB

    on adds Start HS on boss then pop Def>inf>Unchained SS one then voke+BB the other once unchaied finish drop def, you can do same thing on second set of adds but you dont need to pop Defiance since you picking up second set, try to have Veng and conv for it and it will cover you greatly there

    also if you get hit by lightning dont swap, just holmgang ;3

    you dont need to lock on btw if you strafe, i changed my Left to Strafe left and Right to Strafe right.

    Edit: i did dummy for 3min 4sec since i run out of PT no PT buff etc i did 421 with ragnarok. "still need dat axe and body to drops"
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    Last edited by Gildarts; 02-20-2015 at 02:04 AM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gildarts View Post
    i saw your video, lots wasted movements on adds and i think you should start rotation with Heavy>Brutal/Zerk>Maim>IR>SE>Xpot>Fracture>HS>Maim>SE>HS>Maim>SE or butchers whatever works you should be pacified after SE or BB
    I'm curious about that opener. Currently my opening is HS > Maim > IR/Berserk > SE > X-Pot > Fracture/Brutal > SE Combo > BB Combo. It might be beneficial moving the IR/Berserk to before Maim but I still think saving the Brutal Swing for when you have Berserk/Maim/IR/X-Pot up is much better than using it to delay the Berserk. I will test this later tonight. ^^

    Gotta try and convince my healers to let me Holmgang a charge if I get Heat. ;_;

    Yeah, my DPS plummets during the adds. I need to work on that. As for strafing... I have remapped Q and E so lock-on is the only way I can strafe.
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  10. #40
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    Stox Diamond
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ele_Pls View Post

    Yeah, my DPS plummets during the adds. I need to work on that. As for strafing... I have remapped Q and E so lock-on is the only way I can strafe.
    He means to rebind your A and D to strafe left/right. There's really not that much benefit to the default "move" A and D keys.
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