Slaughter... What do you think?

[Atreus]

Healers tend to be bunched up due to medica, prism and such, all it takes is two mages to do the aoe sleep and lock the healers and there is nothing they can do against a twin mage LB if its cast at the same time, when two teams gang on one, this happens alot.

There might be a slight misconception on Sacred Prism too, the reality being it only reduces physical damage. That and there's a lot of people used to bunching up on a flag in Secure. I "think" Focalization would be the healer counter to it, but I'm not sure if Cometeor actually counts as magic or unaspected.

You have an answer to that Faq?

morefuel

Keep trying!

[faq]

If you have more than 4k hp, even a raw destruction won't kill you outright. Definitely not one Cometeor. I'm not saying it isn't powerful or that you can't use it to wipe a team, because you obviously can. I'm saying it's not as easy as one caster dropping one LB and killing an entire team. You're severely oversimplifying it, or playing really bad.

Sure, it is different if you include damage buffs, hp buffs from the nodes and fever/high - but this is where some of the strategy comes in.

[AntiSocialPanda]

Keep trying!

Kids these days ... *sigh* ... I'm just gonna not respond to you, okay? It's fairly obvious you're mad and your feeling are hurt and you need to grow a pair. The only person I see tryin to go out of their way to rile someone up is you, tryhard. Lol pathetic.

[AntiSocialPanda]

If you have more than 4k hp, even a raw destruction won't kill you outright. Definitely not one Cometeor. I'm not saying it isn't powerful or that you can't use it to wipe a team, because you obviously can. I'm saying it's not as easy as one caster dropping one LB and killing an entire team. You're severely oversimplifying it, or playing really bad.

Sure, it is different if you include damage buffs, hp buffs from the nodes and fever/high - but this is where some of the strategy comes in.

If this is what you're saying then yes, I wholeheartedly agree. If I misinterpreted earlier, my apologies, because I thought you were saying something else.

[Atreus]

Waves "experience" at people, tells them "you must not play", resorting to names, getting riled up because called out...

I'm the one that's mad? Alright bud! ^^

[faq]

I'm not sure about sacred soil or focalization - I don't believe we've ever used those as hard counters to cometeor and that is why I didn't mention them.

Tanks get 2 ways to mitigate all damage (increase HP and heal in the case of Thrill) between LB and defensive CD as I've mentioned. And healers can generally get an emp rain after a first cometeor breaks the sleep but before a second kills some people. Obviously, if a sleep goes out and 3 caster LBs are on the same spot and cast exactly at the same time - there is almost nothing you can do besides get the tank lb up first and pray you don't die. But three casters, even in premades who are using voip, all hitting same spot at the same time is the exception, not the rule.

You simply don't have time to countdown to cast at the same time a sleep goes out or anything like that. Sleep goes out, those LBs have to be on the floor or they will miss.

[faq]

On top of this ^, the nodes seem play a significant piece too. If the team casting the LBs did not get any out nodes and the team on the receiving end has the health buff - it become significantly easier to survive the spam. This has essentially caused the changes in strategy over the past few days on Aether as previously mentioned.

Also, cometeor aside. A blm with haste, +dmg and fever can absolutely obliterate anybody in 2 haste shortened gcd's.

[Hyrist]

This is you bringing up a 1v1 issue

No, this was me saying a Mage Caught alone. That does not mean 1 v 1. That means someone caught out of position. Period. You're the one who inferrs that they are caught alone by a single individual. Try again.

As I said before. A Melee meeting a mage 1 v 1 should result in the Melee getting CCed, repeatedly if necessary. That can result in the melee running away in fear of the enemy team approaching. If the team is collapsing, then that's a dead melee. If the Mage was simply overextended, then no that's a dead mage and a fool.

A mage caught out alone and killed is missposition by the mage. It's not a matter of Melee being OP. It's the rules of the game. Play by them or don't play.

A mage being singled out by an enemy team in group play means the team should be defending their mage, as the mage's uninterrupted casts can swing a fight in their favor. It becomes a tug of war of which mages can get their casts off and which team can interrupt their mages enough to gain an advantage in the fight. That's team dynamics.

It sounds like you don't get the basics of PvP. There will always be a rock-paper-scissors situation in PvP, if there is not, there is no team dynamic. I'm done going in circles with you on this issue.

[Red_Wolf]

No, this was me saying a Mage Caught alone. That does not mean 1 v 1.

Yeah right... So you made that point to say that mages should only be concerned about interruptions when surrounded by another team? Who cares about a mage getting caught alone and surrounded by another team? Any player should die in that situation. Talk about a strawman argument.

You have a lot to learn about PvP. This "team" dynamic in which caster shouldn't be allowed to fight against a melee on a even playing field is a theory of your own. No player should prevent 70-80% of another players abilities merely by targeting them. Spells should be interrupted by interruptions and CC alone. That's why melee have them.

[MohShuvuu]

Slaughter lives up to its name.