Slaughter... What do you think?

[AntiSocialPanda]

Put 4 points into vit, add a fending accessory. If you're going to be dumb and not ever try to counter, why even complain?

We've survived cometeor spams multiple times and have also done coordinated sleep+cometeors that were properly countered yielding no kills. According to you, this isn't possible.

I'm sorry what part of "tank lb, sacred soil, and focalization" didnt you understand? Counter? we've done everything possible to counter. Are you really that illiterate? Please tell me you havent witnessed a meteor spam wipe an entire team, b/c if you say otherwise it's a lie or you dont pvp much. If you can wipe an entire TEAM with a lb how is that not OP?

[Pibz]

Slaughter 72man is, and there is just no other way to put it, absolute crap.

It's completely discouraging to see that they just release these maps and rulesets and let them stay as was and not make even decent adjustments to rules and meaningful balance in future patches.

24man Slaughter (8v8v8) on the other hand works great(at least better than any other frontline mode) as it's engaging and you can actually make a bit of a substantial difference by playing well, while still not being as stressful as say an arena deathmatch.

Furthermore something that was completely predictable happened, yet again something the devs either didn't care about or are just oblivious to an extent i can't even understand, the secure mode died, and of course that happened as the PvP population in this game isn't that big to support 2 active 72man maps and the GC restrictions just make it even harder to manage such a huge mess.

Slaughter 72man just needs to go, its the easier solution, it won't happen, but still.

Large scale PvP is very hard to balance(VERY hard) and even harder to keep more than one large scale map alive and very few games i can think of have pulled it off or even try for that matter, instead they are reasonable and release maybe 1 large scale map every now and then, think 2 years or so in between for a good amount, just so it's there and those games have way larger PvP populations too btw.

These points are the reason why after releasing the first 72man Frontline they should have started making smaller scale(8v8v8 or simply 8v8 or 16v16 even) which would work much better and are much easier to get decent balance given the same amount of time.
Sadly , and although i wish it was not going to happen, SE is probably just going to keep pumping large scale maps for Frontline and as an almost sure consequence they will be broken in one form or another and to a greater or lesser extent, but still broken.

[Atreus]

Waves "experience" at people, tells them "you must not play", resorting to names, getting riled up because called out...

I'm the one that's mad? Alright bud! ^^

[faq]

I'm not sure about sacred soil or focalization - I don't believe we've ever used those as hard counters to cometeor and that is why I didn't mention them.

Tanks get 2 ways to mitigate all damage (increase HP and heal in the case of Thrill) between LB and defensive CD as I've mentioned. And healers can generally get an emp rain after a first cometeor breaks the sleep but before a second kills some people. Obviously, if a sleep goes out and 3 caster LBs are on the same spot and cast exactly at the same time - there is almost nothing you can do besides get the tank lb up first and pray you don't die. But three casters, even in premades who are using voip, all hitting same spot at the same time is the exception, not the rule.

You simply don't have time to countdown to cast at the same time a sleep goes out or anything like that. Sleep goes out, those LBs have to be on the floor or they will miss.

[faq]

On top of this ^, the nodes seem play a significant piece too. If the team casting the LBs did not get any out nodes and the team on the receiving end has the health buff - it become significantly easier to survive the spam. This has essentially caused the changes in strategy over the past few days on Aether as previously mentioned.

Also, cometeor aside. A blm with haste, +dmg and fever can absolutely obliterate anybody in 2 haste shortened gcd's.

[MohShuvuu]

Slaughter lives up to its name.

[Pibz]

Slaughter lives up to its name.

If its name is "broken caster heaven", yes it does.

In b4 someone comes at me for being wrong, while picture in quote shows casters more than doubling and even tripling any non caster dps

[faq]

If its name is "broken caster heaven", yes it does.

In b4 someone comes at me for being wrong, while picture in quote shows casters more than doubling and even tripling any non caster dps

To be fair, they doubled and tripled all the other caster dps too.

[Mardel]

If its name is "broken caster heaven", yes it does.

In b4 someone comes at me for being wrong, while picture in quote shows casters more than doubling and even tripling any non caster dps

All I see is up there is Coordinated Cometeors. ;D
Who would have thought that doing content with a coordinated group would achieve good results!?

[Niroken]

All I see is up there is Coordinated Cometeors. ;D
Who would have thought that doing content with a coordinated group would achieve good results!?

I would think that even coordinated melee groups would have less kills and a lot more deaths, lol.