Contagion is way too overrated!

[ShinryuReishiki]

What is the mana saved by using Contagion versus mana spent though? Not disagreeing with you, just think this should be a factor too when choosing the right Egi.

It really depends on what you do with the GCDs Contagion allows you. If you use Miasma II with Contagion, you're essentially not saving any MP.

[Eloah]

While I normally use Garuda, mostly because i like the caster type pets, I personally don't care about contagion all that much. While MP is important, I don't think a Summoner needs to watch it as much as the other magic classes. Normally when i use contagin I use it after I used Raging Strikes to increase my attack power, that way the added 15seconds are more beneficial, this is mosty on bosses. For trash I usually use it and then use bane to spread the extended dots to all the enemies.

Also, since no one probably used it after they got summoner, did anyone notice that Emerald Carbuncle has contagion too, lol, different name but same move.

[Kuwagami]

While MP is important, I don't think a Summoner needs to watch it as much as the other magic classes.

Huh ? SMN is currently the only magic job with heavy MP management problems even when everything goes smooth.

[Eloah]

Huh ? SMN is currently the only magic job with heavy MP management problems even when everything goes smooth.

Well then i must be doing something right or wrong because my MP is never an issuse, rarely do i dip below half.

And shouldn't WHM be the only magic job with MP management issues since they don't have any decent form of MP recovery, SMN/SCH have Aetherflow and Energy Drain, and BLM have Umbral Ice, WHM only have Shroud of Saints, which everyone agrees sucks.

[Kuwagami]

Well then i must be doing something right or wrong because my MP is never an issuse, rarely do i dip below half.

And shouldn't WHM be the only magic job with MP management issues since they don't have any decent form of MP recovery, SMN/SCH have Aetherflow and Energy Drain, and BLM have Umbral Ice, WHM only have Shroud of Saints, which everyone agrees sucks.

I have zero MP management problems with my WHM (5k MP might help though), and shroud, if used well, is a very good tool.

On the other hand, SMN are forced to reduce their DPS if they want to maintain their MP, by using more Energy drain than they'd want in detriment of bane (AoE) or Fester (solo). If they don't, they're MP starved in around 4/5 minutes and can't do anything after that.

[Eloah]

I have zero MP management problems with my WHM (5k MP might help though), and shroud, if used well, is a very good tool.

On the other hand, SMN are forced to reduce their DPS if they want to maintain their MP, by using more Energy drain than they'd want in detriment of bane (AoE) or Fester (solo). If they don't, they're MP starved in around 4/5 minutes and can't do anything after that.

I rarely use Energy Drain, only in those rare instances that I actually need it, But a higher MP pool could help. I think mine is around 4k or so, since Summoners do actually have the lowest overall MP of the magic classes, ironically.

[mvenom]

I rarely use Energy Drain, only in those rare instances that I actually need it, But a higher MP pool could help. I think mine is around 4k or so, since Summoners do actually have the lowest overall MP of the magic classes, ironically.

4k mp as smn? are you drunk or what.

[Lisona]

Well then i must be doing something right or wrong because my MP is never an issuse, rarely do i dip below half.

And shouldn\\\\'t WHM be the only magic job with MP management issues since they don\\\\'t have any decent form of MP recovery, SMN/SCH have Aetherflow and Energy Drain, and BLM have Umbral Ice, WHM only have Shroud of Saints, which everyone agrees sucks.

The MP issues are related to endgame content. MP isn\\'t really an issue outside of FCoB.

[mvenom]

Well then i must be doing something right or wrong because my MP is never an issuse, rarely do i dip below half.

And shouldn't WHM be the only magic job with MP management issues since they don't have any decent form of MP recovery, SMN/SCH have Aetherflow and Energy Drain, and BLM have Umbral Ice, WHM only have Shroud of Saints, which everyone agrees sucks.

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt/category/4/
Guy havent done even Turn5, so yea. Dont talk about things u dont know about.

[Kuwagami]

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt/category/4/
Guy havent done even Turn5, so yea. Dont talk about things u dont know about.

no need to be an ass about it. He was most certainly genuinely saying that he hadn't encountered any MP problems yet.

Eloah, you should have around 3k MP as a SMN, which is really laughable when you start high end content (fights lasting around 10 mins with little to no downtime to regen you MPs)