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    Should Cleric Stance be disabled during Dungeons and Raids?

    The title says it all do you guys think that Cleric Stance should be disabled during dungeons and raids similar to frontlines.

    Recently it has become almost mandatory for healers to DPS, and while it certainly does have it niches it shouldn't be a requirement nor feasible in raids and dungeons unless the healer was made with damage dealing healing capabilities (Ex. Discipline Priest Wow / Dancer FFXI)
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    The many dps checks say no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    The many dps checks say no.
    You mean the raids which cant deal with a dps check, if the healer isnt dpsing, say no..
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    No.
    Not at all.
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    I do agree on the fact that Healers wasn't made for DPS but that shouldn't disregard the fact that they can deal damage and at a ok rate too with Cleric stance and it might just be that small DPS, that could save your team. So I say no. Since people benefit from it more.
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    you can dps without cleric stance
    it just sucks
    so no
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    you can dps without cleric stance
    it just sucks
    so no
    True, but if we didn't have cleric stance it wouldn't be as expected of us to DPS because our performance wouldn't be as good. The reason I made this thread is because there are many instances where healers have a lot on there plate with the healing and it feels unfair to have to do the job of the other jobs. Why should healers dps if the dps don't heal, nor tank and the same applies to tanks they don't heal they just dps because its required to do their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    .... Why should healers dps if the dps don't heal, nor tank and the same applies to tanks they don't heal they just dps because its required to do their job.
    Why should I as a dps stun a rogue mob going after a healer and/or burn it down if the tank loses it and can not pick it back up for whatever reason? It's the healer or tanks fault for not managing hate properly, right?

    We are all trying to not run out of hp before the objective target does, sometimes under a time limit. Not using the tools given to you when they would be a benefit to "your" play style is silly for all jobs. Just because someone's method to get from A to B if different from your'se does not mean it has to be removed. Likewise if a tool you have has no benefit to "your" play style and the task is still getting done you are well within your rights to decent any greifing. Do not confuse a mechanics issue with a social "well you didn't do it perfict according to me" issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    True, but if we didn't have cleric stance it wouldn't be as expected of us to DPS
    Cleric stance is there as an option — not a requirement. If you can't handle healing and DPSing (or if you don't want to) just do one or the other. Let the haters hate. kk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    True, but if we didn't have cleric stance it wouldn't be as expected of us to DPS because our performance wouldn't be as good. The reason I made this thread is because there are many instances where healers have a lot on there plate with the healing and it feels unfair to have to do the job of the other jobs. Why should healers dps if the dps don't heal, nor tank and the same applies to tanks they don't heal they just dps because its required to do their job.
    Ok as a blm i do some healing if it is needed. It is not all the time but sometimes the healers need some help because of different reasons. Over all tho my healing is not good on a blm nor should it be but it does help out at times.

    I dont think they should take cleric stance away. If a healer can find the rime to do some dps then why stop them from doing it?
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