3rd Retainer by Default, please?

[Aerowaffle]

I'm not having a problem with inventory space, but I haven't reached a high enough level on enough classes to pose any sort of problem yet.

But shouldn't the solution be some sort of storage chest if the goal is just additional storage space?

Retainers bring much more to the table than just inventory space. The retainer ventures give items and the limit on how many items you can sell helps control the market (you have to be selective on what you want to sell at some point).

Increasing the amount of items people can sell, and the number of items retrieved by retainers by 50% for everyone is bound to throw some problems. If anything, just add a few more tabs of inventory space to each retainer. But until then, either pay for more retainers, or be more strict with your inventory management.

[Catwho]

. Rather than add new wards they need to look at a mechanism for removing inactive accounts property. Even if they state of it is snapshotted as it is. What's the point of having wards if 90% of it there are abandoned houses.

I have been wondering about this. I think at least three houses in our neighborhood are owned by dead/inactive FCs where nobody has logged in in months. Why are they still allowed to clog up our neighborhood? I would not be adverse to the house property itself being demolished, and the original sale price of the house reverted back to the FC bank (which will still exist) if no one from the FC has logged in for a period of six months. That way, those houses can go back on the market for people who want them WITHOUT having to build more market wards, and since the money is dumped in the FC bank, no hard feelings if one lone person logs in a year from now on a whim and discovers the house is gone.

[Intaki]

Frankly, there should not be purchasable retainers at all. We already pay a monthly subscription, and extra retainers for those who pay more are a massive gameplay advantage.

[Zfz]

"How much do you want to buy?"
"Inserts number 2"
"You have purchased 2 items"

We can do this on NPC stores! Why not from market too?

Because it removes a "strategic" decision in listing items. It allows people with the proper knowledge to place items in quantities that people most likely need, and charge a premium for that.

[Silverbear]

[QUOTE=Lycelle;

Let's do a little math.
Each Retainer = 2$ and lets just get a 3rd retainer for the sake of the thread here.
Non Legacy Subscription = 15$/month.
Now, adding on the retainer fee. It increases to 17$ a month.
Let's add that together, you pay for a full year of XIV with the fee of 17$ a month over the span of 12 months.
17 x 365 D/a Yr = 6,205 Dollars. That is just for a 3rd retainer.

Now let's say we have 100 people who have all done the same thing and are on a month to month payment method.
That is 620,500$ [/QUOTE]


Maybe im not understanding ur example here but isnt ur math way off here we pay by the month not day a 17$ sub for 12 months is not 6,205 dollars.At 17$ a month 17x12= $204 dollars a yr and with the 100 ppl doing same =$20,400 dollars? Again maybe im misunderstanding

[Shadray]

People already paid money, 100's if not 1,000's of people have already paid money for a 3rd retainer. It's not fair to them. Also reducing the monthly cost of a sub is not the same principle as making it completely free.

Let's do a little math.
Each Retainer = 2$ and lets just get a 3rd retainer for the sake of the thread here.
Non Legacy Subscription = 15$/month.
Now, adding on the retainer fee. It increases to 17$ a month.
Let's add that together, you pay for a full year of XIV with the fee of 17$ a month over the span of 12 months.
17 x 365 D/a Yr = 6,205 Dollars. That is just for a 3rd retainer.

Now let's say we have 100 people who have all done the same thing and are on a month to month payment method.
That is 620,500$

There is no way in hell SE is refunding that kind of money just because a few people want a 3rd retainer for free.

Not sure I understand your math.

[Wildsprite]

People already paid money, 100's if not 1,000's of people have already paid money for a 3rd retainer. It's not fair to them. Also reducing the monthly cost of a sub is not the same principle as making it completely free.

Let's do a little math.
Each Retainer = 2$ and lets just get a 3rd retainer for the sake of the thread here.
Non Legacy Subscription = 15$/month.
Now, adding on the retainer fee. It increases to 17$ a month.
Let's add that together, you pay for a full year of XIV with the fee of 17$ a month over the span of 12 months.
17 x 365 D/a Yr = 6,205 Dollars. That is just for a 3rd retainer.

Now let's say we have 100 people who have all done the same thing and are on a month to month payment method.
That is 620,500$

There is no way in hell SE is refunding that kind of money just because a few people want a 3rd retainer for free.

is this that new math I keep hearing about? please explain how you figure we would be paying 17 x 365 D/a Yr? last I checked our fees were per month not per day

[Cuervo78]

It's 17 x 12 for the annual fee including retainer

[Lucke]

The people who already have 3 retainers would have 4. The freebie is just added on. No need to take stuff away.

[silentwindfr]

SE don't have server/capacity problems because they have been careful. If they aren't careful like they are now then there might be server/capacity problems. Rather than add new wards they need to look at a mechanism for removing inactive accounts property. Even if they state of it is snapshotted as it is. What's the point of having wards if 90% of it there are abandoned houses.

i will be blunt, FF14 is the first time i see a dev say they can't add a feature or need to reduce a feature....because of the server capacity! in the whole mmorpg industry is a first! if another mmorpg have a trouble of server capacity.... they upgrade it! i fail to understand why they need to be carefull that much, when the game is still growing and are (by them own word) a success.

they need to stop to be carefull and invest a bit in the game, i can't imagine the number of feature that was abandonned because of the server capacity!