3rd Retainer by Default, please?

[Parodine]

I'd be happy if they even just made the retainers a one-time character or account purchase thing as opposed to monthly.

[Lycelle]

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People already paid money, 100's if not 1,000's of people have already paid money for a 3rd retainer. It's not fair to them. Also reducing the monthly cost of a sub is not the same principle as making it completely free.

Let's do a little math.
Each Retainer = 2$ and lets just get a 3rd retainer for the sake of the thread here.
Non Legacy Subscription = 15$/month.
Now, adding on the retainer fee. It increases to 17$ a month.
Let's add that together, you pay for a full year of XIV with the fee of 17$ a month over the span of 12 months.
17 x 365 D/a Yr = 6,205 Dollars. That is just for a 3rd retainer.

Now let's say we have 100 people who have all done the same thing and are on a month to month payment method.
That is 620,500$

There is no way in hell SE is refunding that kind of money just because a few people want a 3rd retainer for free.

[Krr]

People already paid money, 100's if not 1,000's of people have already paid money for a 3rd retainer. It's not fair to them.

It's perfectly fair to them. They paid for a third retainer when it was considered a luxury service. Now they're not paying for a third retainer, because it's considered a free, mandatory necessity for everyone.

The advantage they invested in for the past year in being able to hold more inventory capital ahead of everyone else didn't magically disappear, and they aren't suddenly paying more than everyone for 'extra inventory space'. They're paying the exact same amount of gil for the exact same amount of slots.

[Lycelle]

It's perfectly fair to them. They paid for a third retainer when it was considered a luxury service. Now they're not paying for a third retainer, because it's considered a free, mandatory necessity for everyone.

The advantage they invested in for the past year in being able to hold more inventory capital ahead of everyone else didn't magically disappear, and they aren't suddenly paying more than everyone for 'extra inventory space'. They're paying the exact same amount of gil for the exact same amount of slots.

Versus people who are paying nothing because they got it for free.

[Krr]

Versus people who are paying nothing because they got it for free.

Yes. That would be everyone, including former third retainer owners.

Do you have any more obvious statements that are somehow counterarguments you feel the need to make against quality of life features?

[Lycelle]

Yes. That would be everyone, including former third retainer owners.

Do you have any more obvious statements that are somehow counterarguments?

I post things of value. Because you have poor reading comprehension isn't my problem friend.

[Krr]

I post things of value. Because you have poor reading comprehension isn't my problem friend.

A post entirely to insult another user is of great value to the forums.

I've clarified the point to you ad nauseum and this is your response. You are beyond help.

[Lycelle]

A post entirely to insult another user is of great value to the forums.

I've clarified the point to you ad nauseum and this is your response. You are beyond help.

Yes. You must feel highly accomplished now. I guess I must be beyond help, please enlighten me. When in hindsight I said I wasn't for or against this idea. But it would cause backlash. Also coloring the kettle black when you told me to post something of value. The irony in your statement. But I'm going to end my discussion here, because it's not worth arguing with someone randomly on a forum. Enjoy the game.

[Krr]

Also coloring the kettle black when you told me to post something of value. The irony in your statement.

Damn it! After all these years, I can't believe it...the real shitposter all along... (looks in the mirror) was me! NOOOOOOOO!

[AsahinaMyLove]

I prefer an upgrade of buying/Selling option from the market

how many people selling items at 99 pieces if most ppl only need 1...
I understand them, 1 retainer "only" has 20 slots for selling items! Wich isnt much <,<

there should be an option!

Example: some1 placed 45x of an item

"How much do you want to buy?"
"Inserts number 2"
"You have purchased 2 items"

We can do this on NPC stores! Why not from market too?