3rd Retainer by Default, please?

[Kosmos992k]

Which would matter if ventures weren't utterly trivial to acquire.

But while you are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts. And the fact is that a person with four retainers can conjure into existence items of high value at twice the speed as a person with two.

That 'conjuring' of high value items is, as far as I can remember, dependent on using ventures and being smiled upon by the RNG...hardly an automatic thing eh?

To echo your words...But while you are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts. And the fact is that additional retainers do not in any way alter your abilities in the game, nor do retainers create anything on their own, they require the player to do something.

[Atomnium]

/supporting a free third retainer.
Storing more items is giving us a lot of headaches, lately I just started to simply toss away my leviathan weapons, because... Full is full and some old stuffs can't be exchanged for seals or even stored in the armoire :x

[Intaki]

That 'conjuring' of high value items is, as far as I can remember, dependent on using ventures and being smiled upon by the RNG...hardly an automatic thing eh?

Quick ventures are for gambling addicts and newbies. The real money is in Mining/Botnay ventures, which give guaranteed returns on specific items which can be sold for a premium.

And again, you ignore the basic truth that extra retainers do change gameplay; specifically, they double the rate of acquisition and thus the rate of income a player with only two retainers can hope to achieve. That is a significant gameplay advantage.

[Gilthas]

And again, you ignore the basic truth that extra retainers do change gameplay; specifically, they double the rate of acquisition and thus the rate of income a player with only two retainers can hope to achieve. That is a significant gameplay advantage.

I think we have different definitions of "significant".

[KariArisu]

I think we have different definitions of "significant".

The tens of millions of Gil I've obtained from having more than 2 retainers must not be significant then.

[Nutz]

The tens of millions of Gil I've obtained from having more than 2 retainers must not be significant then.

I'd have to agree. Most players haven't made millions (let alone tens of millions) of gil with the 2 retainers they have. Adding 2 more would do almost nothing for the average player (pertaining to income only). Very very few people constantly keep their retainers selling items or even have a constant flow of items to sell. If you're suggesting your retainer ventures have produced tens of millions of gil then I'd have to say that you're probably just very lucky, are especially good at planning to use materials and then actually using and selling products efficiently, or you wildly overestimate the amount of gil you've made from your retainers. In any case, it's not anywhere near what other players would be doing with them. I imagine a large number of players would just become starved for venture tokens.