3rd Retainer by Default, please?

[BigPapaSmurf]

So you have trouble giving us additional inventory space... yet you're having us pay beyond our subscription for add'l retainers...

I have an idea... just give us a 3rd Retainer by default (before add'l fees).

Look, there's a huge dilemma with inventory at the moment & character data is restricting us pretty badly.

You've said armoire can't handle much more.

You've said tacklebox won't happen, basically.

You haven't said anything about my requests for a Catalyst Tab (fits your carbonized/dark matters/prisms)... which I know is because you're already pressured enough with improving our inventory capacity yet incapable.

You've essentially said you're exploring your options but that character data is problematic.

So, gift us third retainers without the added cost. Problem solved.

What do you say, Yoshida?

Please +1 this if you support, people.

And then let's ask for the 4th retainer to be given free...

I'm asking for SE to be GENEROUS, not for us to be GREEDY!

A third would suffice until better solutions come along (e.g. Glamour Book instead of having to horde the equipment for future use); it's better than nothing for the time being.

...asking for a 3rd retainer by default is just going to spit in the face of people who already paid for their third retainer already...

Prorating wouldn't be too hard, and they could easily avoid the most of it by announcing a 3rd retainer is coming free-of-charge in just over a month to everybody, even sooner for those who currently have a paid-retainer.

It's not a spit in the face to say, "hey, you don't have to pay anymore!" if a bonus is provided for past spenders or pro-ration occurs.

Seriously, let's say your grocery rewards card costs $ monthly & they announce to everybody that we're now making it free to everybody, no strings attached.

Really, is that really worthy of complaint? Especially if they provide some sort of simple, generous thank you to those who've paid faithfully in the past.

That's like saying (rage), "THANKS A LOT SE for reducing the subscription fee after I've been paying $15/mo. for a year straight!"

You received what you paid for in the time that it cost, that was your choice. Now, if it's to become free, simply receive it with gladness.

Shoot, I pay for a third Retainer right now & I'd be happy to not have to pay anymore; I'd be happy for everybody, but maybe that's just me.

[StrejdaTom]

It is weird to hear a lot about how this game is succesful and about it's nice comeback and then hear from developers atleast twice a month about server load/ capacity problems.

According to the minion/ mount websites, SE has sold loads of Sleipnirs, minions and I believe platinum eternal bondings too, got about 500K subscribers but.....

... we can't have more housing wards (when on every bigger server it was impossible to get small house after a few hours), more inventory space, customizable NPCs in housing (while retainers in housing aren't problem) and lots of other stuff.

Yup, I get that lots of income from this game go back to SE so they can put it into their other games which won't even make as much as FFXIV. But what SE needs to realize is that without investing more $$ to the game they won't make more out of it.

[Renik]

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I fear all that money have been used to open the new EU servers, as European player i have to say it was a waste, useless server to please people with low quality ISPs and of course, nothing for the rest of the player-base who doesn't care or will never touch EU servers.

[Riardon]

I fear all that money have been used to open the new EU servers, as European player i have to say it was a waste, useless server to please people with low quality ISPs and of course, nothing for the rest of the player-base who doesn't care or will never touch EU servers.

It's not about about poor ISP's. It's about laws of physics. The greater the distance the greater the latency. It's unacceptable for all Europe to play on a server which is located on another continent. We play with an average of 200ms without to count in the lag spikes, the bad days when we play with 300ms and all other sort of things. I pay for this game and I demand a server in my area. It's that simple period.

[Renik]

It's not about about poor ISP's. It's about laws of physics. The greater the distance the greater the latency. It's unacceptable for all Europe to play on a server which is located on another continent. We play with an average of 200ms without to count in the lag spikes, the bad days when we play with 300ms and all other sort of things. I pay for this game and I demand a server in my area. It's that simple period.

don't want to kidnap this thread, so this is the last time i post about this, being in Spain, i have a 130-160ms ping to NA servers (located in Canada lol), thanks to windows double check, which you can turn off, even with a shorter ping most people will play with a 200ms ping, because most of them won't take the risk of turning it off, if your ping is higher, it could be caused by being reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally far from the serves, like Eastern Europe, or a low quality ISP, which will cause lags no matter where the serves are located, unless they go regional like some MMOs make.

In short words, the EU servers will only make a difference for people from Easter Europe (a minority) and a lot of people who use low quality ISPs for one reason or another. I don't think that money have been invested correctly, or at least not fairly for those who won't enjoy it's benefits.

[Riardon]

In short words, the EU servers will only make a difference for people from Eastern Europe (a minority) and a lot of people who use low quality ISPs for one reason or another.

Judging from your own experience and only is not the correct thing. Apparently the vast majority of EU players (and EU is not only Spain and UK) have problems and they demand a server in central Europe or such. That's the reason SE forced to promise they will make one here and they announced so during the Fan Fest. Let's not complicate it more with technical details and such. Let's head back to the topic because we derailed it a bit.
Back to our topic I don't think SE will give us a 3rd retainer for free. I think we have enough space with the exception of people gathering gear sets and loads of materials. Those people have troubles and to be honest they will run into inventory problems even if SE gives us a 3rd retainer.

[Gilthas]

In short words, the EU servers will only make a difference for people from Easter Europe (a minority) and a lot of people who use low quality ISPs for one reason or another. I don't think that money have been invested correctly, or at least not fairly for those who won't enjoy it's benefits.

My connection from Portugal doesn't cause me problems either, but this logic is pretty faulty. An EU datacenter, at the very least, won't make things worse for me, yet has the potential to make things better, if ever so slightly.

It's true that the majority of players (NA and JP) won't have a benefit from a new EU datacenter. But the same logic applies for the other two datacenters yet we have those. EU is certainly the smaller playerbase of the three, but it's apprently big enough for SE to give us a datacenter.

[Altena]

It's not about about poor ISP's. It's about laws of physics. The greater the distance the greater the latency. It's unacceptable for all Europe to play on a server which is located on another continent. We play with an average of 200ms without to count in the lag spikes, the bad days when we play with 300ms and all other sort of things. I pay for this game and I demand a server in my area. It's that simple period.

That is horse.

Your ping, unless you live in SEA (or eastern end of Russia) is not much worse, (and often better in some EU countries) then the West coast of America.

I live in SEA and play on an NA server. My ping is not much over 280ms on a bad day, and I live nearly 3 times the distance anyone in EU does from the server.
Even with this ping, the game is extremely playable at an end game/raid level.

If your ping is over 200, in most parts of EU, then your ISP is an issue.

[raelgun]

That is horse.

Your ping, unless you live in SEA (or eastern end of Russia) is not much worse, (and often better in some EU countries) then the West coast of America.

I live in SEA and play on an NA server. My ping is not much over 280ms on a bad day, and I live nearly 3 times the distance anyone in EU does from the server.
Even with this ping, the game is extremely playable at an end game/raid level.

If your ping is over 200, in most parts of EU, then your ISP is an issue.

my ping in wow is 30 or less, I play in EU btw, anything close to 200 is unacceptable. Why should EU players play with a disadvantage when being competitive, EU has always dominated wow world first, theres a reason non of them are in 14 is because of the server locations.

[StrejdaTom]

I fear all that money have been used to open the new EU servers, as European player i have to say it was a waste, useless server to please people with low quality ISPs and of course, nothing for the rest of the player-base who doesn't care or will never touch EU servers.

I have 110-130 ms so I am fine here too. I really don't know about others but I hope that the moment we get EU servers people with bad ISPs won't blame SE anymore.