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    I've had to withdraw from the primal discussions as of late just because I keep seeing everything through the lens of my current theory that the primals are literally the primal forces, (Inferno, Crag, Vortex, Gale, Levin, Frost - the six facets of Hydaelyn's light), and that all the entities we've been dealing with are just deiformed aether. I'm having a hard time not seeing it right now just because it explains too much. It explains why the essence of the land makes such strong entities; it explains why those were the first conjured until the laws of existence started to waver in the Crystal's weakness and suddenly anything you could zealously believe in could be deiformed; it explains the Twelve - each element given a polarity and named throughout the ages, associated with heroes of legend as tales pass from one age to the next.

    It also explains why Moggle was so strictly not a primal until he was eh, pretty much the same thing, mostly, and why early trailers talked so much about myths made reality and the Land itself rising against mankind. Until I find something that collapses this house of cards, I'm stuck seeing everything through that lens, lol. Midgardsormr's association with Althyk and Nymeia suddenly being revealed to be the Earth and Water (or is it Crag and Tide?) of Hydaelyn didn't help me get back to seeing things objectively on that matter, either.

    We see the essence of Frost harnessed by heretic zeal to manifest the deiform Shiva within Iceheart, and then that deiform summons soldiers from Frost that are themselves nothing like her, and nothing like Egi, either. Moreover, the first ice soldier was seen before Shiva was summoned (at least, either of the two times we currently know about). It all makes me very curious, and that's why I suggested earlier that perhaps Fenrir was an aetherial construct of Frost, as well. Carbuncle on crank, maybe. If that's true, it actually puts is back in the realm of possibility for connections to Menphina's loyal hound, though. Myth made manifest, no celestial objects required. Still, that seems like kind of a far-out way to write Fenrir into FFXIV...

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