I think its time BRD get some loving

[Ryans]

really OP?
almost every group will have special spot for bard and you still ask for buff?

if you want high number on parse to make your e-peen feel better go play other job

Seriously... He starts his post by saying Bard is almost certainly a necessity because of it's utility and then asks that it also do more damage on top of that. Talk about getting greedy.

[DoubleD]

really OP?
almost every group will have special spot for bard and you still ask for buff?

if you want high number on parse to make your e-peen feel better go play other job

Peeps need to keep in mind that there is other content out there other than the newest 8 man raid.

This is an extreme example, but imagine doing something like WOD with 15 bards all equipped with:
Shiva Bow (Garbage but necessary for people that don't raid / not enough time for Zodiac Weapon)
Ironworks Chestpiece (Garbage but a lot of bards have this because they think higher IL = stronger)
Ironworks Leg piece (Garbage but a lot of bards have this because they think higher IL = stronger)

It will take twice as long to beat it compared to a party comprised of 15 other any other DPS class.

Bard is weak and keep getting weaker every patch because SE keeps on nerfing the damn WD. The trend of nerfing WD more and more every patch needs to stop.

[ChriZirhC]

+1 WD please.

[kyuven]

+1 WD please.

This. It won't break the game, or the class, but would bring us at least a LITTLE bit more in-line with other classes in terms of damage. We deal the lowest damage, and that gulf is only increasing. +1 Weapon Damage would make everything nice and kosher.

[Vogue]

I agree with this post, I actually suggested months age the idea of giving Battle Voice the additional effect of nullifying the damage reduction penalty of mage's ballad and paeon. Just how Unchained nullifies Defiance damage reduction.

I also suggested in removing all songs from the global cooldown, mainly because it is annoying in some situations and there is no real reason to have their cooldown shared with other attacks.

[alimdia]

IF you are wanted in every raid and also do top dps, parties will instead stack bards.
balance 101

[DoubleD]

IF you are wanted in every raid and also do top dps, parties will instead stack bards.
balance 101

I'm sure the OP isn't demanding to do top DPS. I main bard, and I don't expect to do top DPS. Not even close to top DPS. The DPS gap between equally gear / skill bard and every other job is very very wide. It was already wide enough with IL 115 weapons. They nerfed the 135 bard weapons even more? Why? The gap was already there and it's already worse.

If you play marauder, i'm sure you've been grouped in 4 man dungeons with 2 bards as the DPS. You get that "Damnit! Bards!" feeling because they are weaker and stuff takes longer to kill.

I que for dungeons with a knight for tome farming and feel like throwing the controller when I get paired with 2 bards.

[KaedrianLiang]

They buff magic damage for other players. That extra damage others produce because of Foe Requiem can be considered your damage. Synergy between classes is often overlooked by players that request buffs for their main class of choice.

Ranged, Instant cast dps skills, mobile dps, more hp than casters, synergy with casters, brings 3 songs to serious premade raids/trials that guarantee at least 1 slot for brds.

[SinisterIsBack]

That extra damage others produce because of Foe Requiem can be considered your damage.

No no no no just NO. For gods sake, I dont know what schmuck started saying this but it needs to stop... period. We play a song for casters that increases their damage, that damage is not ours, it is still very much theirs. This is like saying the ballad we play for healers, which allows them to keep the dps alive longer and continue to dps.. so a part of that damage should be ours AMIRIGHT?>???


The removal of the penalty from singing will not make us TOP DPS OMGSORS OMG OMG. It wouldn't really increase our damage that much at all actually. Bards arent singing 100% of any fight. (T13 is a different story, ugh)

However, with the way final coil is, monks and warriors are pretty damn handy also for their debuffs arent they? Lets reduce their damage by 20% while those abilities are up? Sounds good yea?

Yea, I am also for +1 - +3 WD --- Yep, I went their

[Tiggy]

No no no no just NO. For gods sake, I dont know what schmuck started saying this but it needs to stop... period.

Bard is the only hybrid support/dps class we have and for support classes this is exactly how it works. That extra damage is only there because of the support class. Acting like they aren't a part of that equation is ignorant to where it came from.
I disagree with the OP. Our static bard does amazing damage and still does songs the whole time. If this change was made our bard would be doing similar damage to other normal DPS classes. This is not how balance works.