Thread: Request: 3.0 Job Customizing

Originally Posted by LandricFrey

So you're saying that WoW was never a AAA MMO? In vanilla and TBC I remember Paladins and Warriors being viable dps options as well as tanks, and shadow priests with staggering damage output. I also remember classes in that game were fairly well balanced in PVE and PVP. Saying something would be hard to do is a poor excuse for giving up on an idea. It can be done, it has been done, and I have a feeling SE could do it better!

It was and then they made the mistake of trying to let everyone do everything and not have to sacrifice anything, leading to mega classes that can fit into any party role they want, which led to the decomposition of game mechanics and transformed WOW into one big dick measure competition where everyone was only trying to get the highest DPS in every dungeon and raid. If you hadn't noticed, FFXIV has taken everything everyone hated about WOW and didn't do it.

True, and unless they throw away the current system and redevelop it you would never be able to make a dps from tank class.
The built in enimity generation alone would prevent this.

Originally Posted by Cuervo78

True, and unless they throw away the current system and redevelop it you would never be able to make a dps from tank class.
The built in enimity generation alone would prevent this.

With no classes required for the 3 new jobs, here's hoping they are throwing away the current system.

They're not - the current Armoury System is clearly staying. We know so little about the three new Jobs at the moment so anything discussed is just speculation. But I can honestly say the current class/Job system is staying as is more or less (after all, why implement ROG and NIN like existing classes if they were just going to scrap that a few months later?).

And both Moqi and Akiza already mentioned the reason why your suggestion would not work so I'm not going to add anything further other than saying I agree fully with what they said.

You know i would like to see something like this as well. I would like to see more player agency in their characters, and choices to be made on individual playstyles. It would be good to see traits that players had to choose between, as well as set bonuses etc on armour. It would be far more interesting if on the next relic in 3.0, unique bonuses could be put on them. Its time SE allowed players to make choices rather than continue with the attitude which is more akin to hand holding when it comes to cross class skills, bonus attribute points, bonuses on weapons and armour etc. Lett he player make choices, we will make mistakes, but hey, thats part of the fun of playing Final Fantasy games .

Originally Posted by Moqi

So you just want glamour options, unless you're expecting SE to make skills for every class for every role. If you're gonna use all cross-class melee dps skill you might as well play one drg, mnk or nin and glamour paladin gear on. Why would I want a shitty healer with high defenses and a squishy tank who can't take hits but is able to cast thunder II?

Usually how this is done is the player would have most of the base skills for their job and SE add 3-5 skills/traits/buffs for any chosen role designed to allow the player to succeed in that role. You, for instance, would most likely chose a "pure healer," no one would touch your restorative power and you could take pride in that. I would play something that gives my sch more damage output since I can easily heal most dungeons. And that is only one option they could go with.

My point is to customize. They could make a dps still a dps just in a different way. BLM that "specialize" in Fire Ice or Lighting.(get rid of the current"fire does more dmg, while ice heals mp setup, that is boring and makes healing MP pots worthless) Maybe fire could stack high dots, Ice could have CC effects, and Lightning do large amounts of single target damage.

I already gave some examples of how to implement job customizing in my first post. It doesn't have to be the Extreme/1.0 setup you despise.