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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    This thread still going on?

    Lucis made it much much easier to get Ironworks for my retainers. I have no complaints, and am amazed that you continue to.

    It took less than 3 weeks to earn Ironworks (and 100% fishing log) now. And this is me playing casually. I had fewer than 5 Greens before I got Lucis.

    Difficult stuff will be made easier as the game progresses. This is the nature of an MMO. Get over yourself already.
    It's obvious that you did not even read the OP because this is not about Lucis making it easier to get Ironworks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liev View Post
    It's obvious that you did not even read the OP because this is not about Lucis making it easier to get Ironworks.
    I read the OP, and yes, my point is still relevant. Just like they eased the droprate of atmas for relics, they eased the difficulty to earn legendaries faster and without a need of food or FC buff, given the appropriate gear. With the side bonus of a powerful rod which can be duplicated.

    A small group of people complained that atma droprate was made too easy at this stage in the game. Crafters likewize have complained that the ease of earning Fieldcraft III and Mastercraft Demimateria has made earning artisan gear too easy. You have a similar beef with the inevitable, similar handout made for fishers.

    Yes, inevitable. Get over yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    I read the OP, and yes, my point is still relevant. Just like they eased the droprate of atmas for relics, they eased the difficulty to earn legendaries faster and without a need of food or FC buff, given the appropriate gear. With the side bonus of a powerful rod which can be duplicated.

    A small group of people complained that atma droprate was made too easy at this stage in the game. Crafters likewize have complained that the ease of earning Fieldcraft III and Mastercraft Demimateria has made earning artisan gear too easy. You have a similar beef with the inevitable, similar handout made for fishers.

    Yes, inevitable. Get over yourself.
    lol did you really tho? i'm not even sure you read the quote before you responded to it
    Quote Originally Posted by liev
    this is not about Lucis making it easier to get Ironworks
    This is not about Lucis making it easier to get Ironworks.
    This is not about Lucis making fishing easier.
    This is about Ironworks, a very difficult achievement item, no longer having any relevant use, to include glamour.

    Do I need to edit the post at the top of this page?

    The Ironworks Rod should be altered in some way to restore prestige.
    Ironworks Rod should be better made better than Halcyon Rod Lucis. OR The Ironworks Rod should be given a unique, stand-out appearance.
    "Get over yourself."
    ∴ OP is wrong.

    yeah no, great argument

    Even your examples are poor. Increased atma drop rates and increased demimateria availability did not render anything obsolete.

    Why don't you get over yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by liev View Post
    This is about Ironworks, a very difficult achievement item, no longer having any relevant use, to include glamour.
    Very? No, not at all, really. At least not anymore, which is MY point in past posts- inevitable easing of content, and eventual obsolescence. Just RNG at this point. No relevant use? thats up to the player. You don't speak for everybody, nor should you.

    Quote Originally Posted by liev View Post
    The Ironworks Rod should be altered in some way to restore prestige.
    Because it used to be difficult to earn, and now is easy to earn? The same could be said about Luminary. It won't be altered to be more potent, as its an achievement reward. Something people will eventually get just by grinding the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Very? No, not at all, really. At least not anymore, which is MY point in past posts- inevitable easing of content, and eventual obsolescence. Just RNG at this point. No relevant use? thats up to the player. You don't speak for everybody, nor should you.
    Whoosh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Because it used to be difficult to earn, and now is easy to earn? The same could be said about Luminary. It won't be altered to be more potent, as its an achievement reward. Something people will eventually get just by grinding the content.
    Whoosh. No it has nothing to do with eased difficulty. Read the OP.
    Luminary - see page one. It's useful as a glamour item. Ironworks is not.
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2764078

    Maybe you should re-read this a couple times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liev View Post
    No it has nothing to do with eased difficulty. Read the OP.
    It has plenty to do with it, regardless of whether you decide to ignore it. Re: reality.

    Point, counterpoint. Just because you disagree with our counterpoints does not mean that they should not be considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    It has plenty to do with it, regardless of whether you decide to ignore it. Re: reality.

    Point, counterpoint. Just because you disagree with our counterpoints does not mean that they should not be considered.
    No it doesn't....because the post at no point mentions that anything should be changed because of eased difficulty. Re: reality. Re: learn to read. Re: See the post at the top of page 5. Every valid argument has been considered.
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