Quote Originally Posted by liev View Post
You've responded to actually nothing that's been written. You're just repeating yourself. Note that I've been able to respond to your new posts almost entirely in quotes from my own previous posts. Also, raging is laughable. Any stylized text was simply to emphasize points that have been repeated again and again which you have not once acknowledged.


1. I have not once failed to acknowledge that it's an achievement reward. It literally comes from an achievement...the calamity salvager need not be consulted.
2. The entire argument is that because this achievement is so hard to get the rod should either be better stats wise or be more unique in appearance.


It is not a main part of the argument.
Forager's Offhands were only brought up in the first place because you insisted that no other class was graced with something special like the Forager's Rod. I do not agree with that sentiment, as I've already stated. This however bears little relevance to the main argument.
By your own admission, you view the rod as something special. My point from the OP is that it should remain special, if only in terms of looks. As of now, it is special in neither looks nor stats.

I've updated the OP to reflect this.




1. The OP.
2. Bold and red text obviously doesn't improve your reading comprehension. Let's try font size.

Literally from the OP. Quoted more than once.



"Discussion"
That's laughable considering this entire thing can be summarized as
Me, in the OP: I think the Ironworks Rod should be either improved to reflect its difficulty to obtain in comparison to the Lucis, or that its appearance should be altered so that is worthwhile if only as a glamour item.
You: You're wrong.
Me: I disagree. Here are reasons why.
You: You're wrong. (the same points you already made that I already adressed)
Repeat the last two ad infinitum.

A "noble" move would've been to voice your opinion as something other than fact, which you have not done. You’re so full of yourself that you had the audacity to call your initial response an “answer” as if you work at SE.

You came here to argue, and you have done nothing but argue. You don’t get to act offended now because I called you out on it and asked you to stop. Now, I will not grace you with further replies.
The responses have been directly in regards to what you have written. It is quite clear they have been.

You call the ironworks the equivalent of the foragers gear the other gathering classes have, this is incorrect. I have argued that it is not, you have not shown any compelling arguments to counter this. As an achievement reward, it is highly unlikly that this is meant to have been a definative upgrade that will stay the BiS for fisher. We were lucky to have been given this in the first place when no other gathering classes were. The fact that you can not engage with this point other than saying its the equivalent of foragers offhands without any justification other that "it was released at the same time".

The fact that you have had to update the OP surely shows you that ther is validity in what has been said. Otherwise why do it. I am glad you have to claify your position. However it still stands that this is a unique reward given to fishers that the other gathering classes have not received. It is difficult to get, but you know, difficulty isnt always gradiated in terms of more difficult=better rewards.

You try to automatically take out one of the main arguments in your OP. However, just because you say you dont want this being considered does not mean you are automatically right. You are stating a premis of your argument, again, if you dont want people engaing with this then dont post on a public forum. My argument is, and has always been, is that it is a unique reward given to fishers alone. It was a reward that was very good when it was released, and it still has relevance. It does not need an ilvl upgrade due to the fact it still has relevance.

Just to make it more than abundantly clear, just because you have tried to take out a major part of the argument in your OP, it does not mean you are right and that it HAS to be ignored. The fact you made such an effort to state this in the first place means that you actually more than understand its relevance.

Now if you havent noticed (and you really havent), the argument is that since the ironworks still has relevance in the game, it does not need the ilvl boost that you are so adament that it needs.

Arguments have been constructed, it is not my problem at all if these can not be handled.