Quote Originally Posted by liev View Post
Okay, we’ll start here:

Your refusal to actually acknowledge any counterpoints that have been brought up and instead repeat yourself doesn’t help your argument. Everything bolded and red is things that have already been said and argued that you, even still, have ignored.

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1. It’s common knowledge that the Lucis tools are not necessary for any of the nodes or fish currently in the game. They are obviously intended to prepare us for the future. Thanks for reminding us.
2. This is proof only that the Ironworks Rod was replaced before it ever served an actual purpose. You’re right, the rod is moot. The entire argument is that rod is moot and that it shouldn’t be.

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Everything bolded and red is things that have already been said and argued that you refuse to acknowledge, even still.


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This has been addressed four times. Four times.





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Please check the previous discussion. I have never said or implied that you said the ironworks was not hard work. Never.

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Thanks for the recap. I haven’t been reading. Apparently, you haven’t either though.


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I’ve already explained why this is not the case unless you already have the Ironworks Rod. Please re-read the previous posts.

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Unlike the Ironworks Rod, the Forager’s Rod actually had a time when it was exceptionally useful. It was not made obsolete when the Supra was introduced because it became a necessary step in progressing toward Supra. Only after obtaining the Supra was it obsolete. Ironworks Rod, however, is hardly necessary to get the Lucis.

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1. These rings were obviously introduced with fresh 50s in mind. They are not hard to get.
2. You love to toss around the word logic. Here’s some logic for you.

Irrespective of the rings not “looking ‘good’” they are, nonE the less very unique in appearance and unlike any other rings.
The Ironworks Rod, however, looks like basically every other rod in the game with the exception of Halcyon Rod variants.

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Use the inferior tool. Excellent solution. (Edited because I misread this).

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Now, if you would be so kind, stop responding.

You are obviously satisfied with the Ironworks Rod as it is. You've made this clear. As is evident by the fact that you've done nothing but repeat yourself, you've nothing worthwhile left to contribute to the discussion. Move on.
I have been engaging in the discussion, it is your issue if it is not what you want to hear. Raging at someone since they have a different opinion to you is not particularly, how should i put it, noble.

The fact that you can not accept this is an achievement reward, and not, as you put it, the equivalent of the foragers off hands, is the crux of this matter. If you go to the calamity salavager, it is listed in achievement rewards.

If this is how you wish to garner support for your request, you will be facing a very steep uphill battle.

You still have to explain how the ironworks is the same as the foragers gear, this is a main part of your argument. One that you have not answered to any satisfactory degree. If you could construct an argument why its necessary for a fisher to have a higher ilvl ironworks rod as part of the game, you would get support. The argument seems to be "i worked for this, its now the second best rod in the game, change it now SE"

Now perhaps stop shouting at people, stop demanding that they immediatly cease any discussion in a public forum in a thread that you created for public discussion.