XI-2 was released this past September, or didn't you notice?

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

It's all good to Draw on FFXI's successes, but when people start posting asinine things like, "We should scrap the armoury system and go back to job/subjob.", it's kind of pathetic.

I agree with this. I think it should be more about small system things like a cleaned up party search system and /search commands or linkshell management basics that their previous installation had. Not system directly taken from XI itself. That is indeed pathetic.

In terms of the parallels, it's silly to not acknowledge them when they are already there. It's something that will always be there due to the games styling and instead of arguing that you should accept it. It was already executed (poorly) and now it's the art direction's and development's job to steer it away if they want this world to be accepted as a separate entity. Or tie it in or weave the two worlds together some way where it makes sense even on a high fantasy level.

Hydaelyn could be Vana'diel in another incredibly different dimension. Or Hydaelyn is really Vana'diel millions of years into the future where continents have grown or changed and the reason for that the races have evolved. Could even go straight science fiction and find out that you were once from Vana'diel and eventually your ancient ancestors had to leave that world and inhabit a new one that was forgotten through the many devastating umbral eras. It is said in the lore that there are many city ruins buried and forgotten due to these eras and are mostly forgotten about. There is so much that can be done to tie in the reasoning for these similarities.

[Khal_Drogo]

Post #115

Brucey, once again, you come in and save the day. You should change your user name to "The_Voice_of_Reason" lol

[Andrien]

Seriously you guys.../facepalm. If this was XI-2 there would be similar characters from XI in XIV. Oh wait there is Cid and the summons... Oh wait again just a sec, Cid and summons is also in other Final Fantasy titles! Oh snap! Wait but XIV Cid looks different.

Items, Cid, Summons, Magics, Abilities, Biggs and Wedge. That is as much or all the similarities XIV will have with the rest.


..Oh I forgot about Chocobo and Moogles.

[Andrien]

Are you really this dense, or did you just do what every other anti-XI jack a## does, and run in here just to start an argument? Why don't you read post #106, and pass the word on to your fellow trollers. XI-2 doesn't mean what you think it means...at least not to the XI fans who use the terminology. There's a great deal of evidence to support this "sarcastic" terminology -and, no, not just a handful of stupid shit like the ridiculous rant you just posted. To quote that rabbit from bambi: "If you can't say somthun [SMART], don't say nuthun at all."

If you call that a rant.. you should heed your own advice and not post irrelevant terminology as a form of rant yourself. shall I report your flames?

[Andrien]

Oooo, another "i'm gonna tell mommy" type. You're sooo scary. If the "mods" or w/e they're called want to "punish" me for saying what needs to be said, and a handful of ppl not liking it, then so be it. I can't stand the sight of such a pathetic post, though. It, literally, makes me cringe. Please never use the word "report" again. There's no need to whine and threaten to "tattle" on people. Just do it, and be done with it. To quote Fred Flinstone (from Family Guy) "No one's askin' ya ta' smell it!"


God this world is full of so many stupid ppl.

you're getting all hell bent after I stated a known fact. you can't get a clue can you?

[Tsuga]

you're getting all hell bent after I stated a known fact. you can't get a clue can you?

"The most cowerdly (or in this case, the one with the weakest argument) dog barks the loudest".

Let him continue to rant at anybody who opposes his position, he's only proving that his argument is paper thin.

To the OP, this game started out as FFXI-2 in early development, but the devs took it into a direction that separates it from XI in nearly every field outside of appearance and item/mob names. Granted, it was mostly flawed, and the new team has decided to lean on old ideas to try to fix the problems with the old system. Yes this game is a lot like XI, but that does not make it XI-2, any more than the similarities between FFIII, and FFV make them direct sequels to each other. The key difference in every FF is its world and/or its story, and Hydaelyn is all ready established as a different world from Vana'diel.

Long story short, stating that there are a ton of similarities between XI and XIV is only stating the obvious - that doesn't mean that XIV has to borrow every single idea that worked in XI, like so many former/current XI players would rather it did. Those of us who realize that XI has very dated systems would rather the dev team come up with new and better ideas, than simply import them from XI. It's a lot of the XI player-base that is so narrow-minded that they think that XI's systems are the only ones that will ever work.

[Khal_Drogo]

"The most cowerdly (or in this case, the one with the weakest argument) dog barks the loudest".Let him continue to rant at anybody who opposes his position, he's only proving that his argument is paper thin.

lol that's only applicable when it's one dog versus the other...good try though. I'm "barking" so loudly b/c I'm having to fend off hoards and hoards of ignorant fools. And unlike the weaker, more cowardly dog, I'm biting back. And for your information, my argument is rock solid. Check out the initial post, and other XI-supporters' number of "likes" in this thread. XI-supporters just don't bother speaking out against you and "your kind," regardless of what is being said. They know that reason means nothing to you people, so why bother. And, perhaps, listening to your whining of blind unfounded hatred of a game most of you either didn't play, or didn't understand, just isn't enough to "rally" them into responding. However, they do care enough to make sure you know that your opinion matters very little to them. So, go pretend whatever you want in your little world -whatever helps you sleep at night.

[AsterBarnivere]

Two words:

Pandemonium Warren

[Scherwiz]

Zombie Topics are fun ^^;;...........

[Dargoth_Draconia]

I'm making this thread because I'm sick of seeing ppl whine and moan every time someone mentions anything about XI. Regardless of how oblivious everyone is, or how much they try to deny it, this game is XI-2. To quote some random hick: "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it must be a g*@ damn duck." Just because ppl mention XI, and try to use it as a template to build off of doesn't mean they want an exact clone w/ upgraded graphics and a new story. So, stop being so dismissive every time these people make brilliant suggestions. If you all noticed, the game isn't doing that well right now, so ppl don't like it very much. SE isn't even charging...what's that tell you?

Wanna know something else? The majority of the changes that have been made were inspired by the FFXI crew, and Yoshi-P's genius. So, stop being close-minded, and acknowledge the obvious fact: XI was great; XIV can be better, but it needs to draw off of XI in order to do so.

Sure it needs to draw from a few elements of FFXI but then again it needs to draw from other games as well. Pull in other elements that make the game appealing to all and not just a very small group of individuals, well this is actually what Yoshi-P is doing and that's why I give mad props to that guy.